Abbott staunchly opposes mask and vaccine mandates. Now he’s begging for out of state aid. Spell it with me: F-r-e-e-d-u-m-b
Quick Update: Gulf Coast COVID numbers
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People should have the right to be wrong. In fact, there is no such thing as freedom without it.
Oh, I have absolutely no idea how long that process could take. It might be a decade for all I know to mutate into a less serious version.
I don't think we can stop it with vaccines, just survive it. Which is good enough, right now.
People probably wouldn't be so opposed to masks if our government (Fauci) didn't do the worst PR job in the history of the world concerning masks. It's almost impossible to screw up as bad as he did.
They shouldn’t have the right to occupy every ICU bed in every major city despite being given the means to protect themselves from this disease. That’s when their freedom to be morons starts infringing upon others freedoms.
3 people that I personally know. Point is why not try it? What if it helps slow the hospitalizations, why not try it? It's because they can't produce and receive approval for a "vaccine" if there are other cures and treatments available. That's why they won't try and why I'm skeptical of anything they say right now. Just my personal opinion.
They have tried it. Most doctors said it did nothing. Big study came out yesterday that said it did nothing. Hospitals don’t like prescribing things that don’t help just to try.
It always does my heart good to know we disagree. Makes me feel much better about myself.
@mrhickory I pray it never comes down to this, but....
At what point do hospitals ethically prioritize scarce resources to do the most good/save the most people. Unfortunately, some may not receive the standard of care in this case.
At what point do hospitals ethically prioritize scarce resources to do the most good/save the most people. Unfortunately, some may not receive the standard of care in this case.
If we are at 5,000 cases a day and say 100-150 deaths a day, that may be the best we can do for the foreseeable future.
You speak as though if everyone gets a vax, this will all just go away. A vax doesn’t stop you from being a carrier of the virus. There’s no magic spell in the vax that tells the virus it can’t mutate in a vaccinated carrier, or that you can’t still infect someone.
If you have to give the government a third of every dollar you make so we can support a healthcare bill that should be about half as much, that impacts all aspects of your life. Might sound small on the surface, but if you have been vax’d you have virtually zero risk. If you haven’t been vax’d, that’s your choice—and statistically you still have an extremely low chance of dying.
Less than 1% of COVID hospitalizations are vaccinated individuals. Stop being dumb.
I don't like to be told what to do either, but unfortunately this basement photo highlights the significant effect on others.
Reply all you want. Just know that everyone thinks you’re being a douche nozzle. If you’re cool with that, then damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. But JGT isn’t going to start banishing Mr H’s updates, so no amount of whining you do will matter.
Yeah, that
Yeah, like I said, if you have the vax, your risk is virtually zero.
I think you are. Actually, by the volume of your posts ITT, I know you are.
If hospitals start prioritizing patients who don't have COVID or who have been vaccinated over COVID patients who refused to vaccinate, that would seem to somewhat resolve that issue.
Yes, and unlike what you said, this does all go away (for all intents and purposes) if everyone gets vaccinated. If we were sitting at 1% of our current hospitalizations, then COVID isn’t a significant problem.
@mrhickory Thanks again for the updates. Keep them coming when you have the time. Keep posting here, on The Bunker. It’s the best place for the most people to see them, and if you get to piss off a few titty babies in the process, even better.
This is true. Also, publicly firing Fauci for incompetence probably would do more to cause people to have faith in what they are being told by the healthcare authorities and to encourage vaccination than anything else the government could do right now. Fauci is a lying, bureaucratic POS who cares far more about personal agenda and personal gain than about the health of the citizens of this country.
I would hope most would know what’s in that video. Weird to hear something from 3 weeks ago. He’s in the middle of what he feared.
you are misinterpreting their message. Your summary last paragraph is just plain wrong.
instead, vaccination is critical now to reduce hospitalizations and deaths. Social distancing is also key to stop spread and protect unvaccinated or immune compromised. Booster shots are needed as vaccines become less effective and the pandemic persists
this is how you end the pandemic, and move into the phase of dealing with it as a always around virus. There are just no shortcuts to that no matter how upset that makes folks.
and at this point, there is almost a certain guarantee of an even more deadly strain before the pandemic portion is over. That is due to the slow acceptance of vaccination.
It’s understandable to lose at PSU.Either way, we're still going to beat the snot out of PSU. Right, @hsvtiger34?
It’s not understandable to go winless in Baton Rogue this century.
??? Everything you just said, is exactly what I've said in this thread. Someone woke up looking for an E-Fight apparently.
As far as I know, not one vaccinated patient has been denied treatment as a result of some unvaccinated COVID patient being treated in their stead. What is going on in the hospitals right now is not good, but the healthcare professionals are doing their jobs. If eventually choices have to be made in whether to treat people who chose not to vaccinate, that is just how it has to be. But it isn't like the healthcare workers are being forced to work for free or that these patients are not paying for the treatment. Yes, it is largely unnecessary and could be prevented, but there are other things in our society where people are allowed freedom that have similar effects on others. It is a side effect of living in a free society.
It’s a horse dewormer btw. Who da fuq decided to try this? Lol (I hope the next study which is larger finds it’s a miracle drug to cure Covid)
Column: Major study of ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever'
Ivermectin, touted as a treatment of COVID by the anti-vaccine crowd, has "no effect," according to a major study.
This is just a out where I'm am. I'm 100% against mandatory vaccines but if you select no to get vaccinated, you should not get a bed before any vax'd individual. Maybe even turned away completely.
What I’m saying is this virus isn’t going to be eradicated--at least not anytime soon. If getting a vax doesn’t doesn’t allow someone to move on with their lives without masks, restrictions, etc., then good luck getting cooperation from a large segment of our population who don’t trust that our state and federal leaders to look out for their interests.
I’m amazed the Health insurance companies haven’t increased rates for the unvaccinated. I guess renewals are coming up though.
I swear to GOD if you idiots cause an issue with football season attendance, I’ll throat punch every single one of you. Well, maybe not physical violence, but I’ll verbally hate on you some more.
There’s an endless # of rules and laws that people have to follow even in a free society and they’re all subjective. Lines have to be drawn somewhere it’s not like people can just do whatever the hell they want in the name of freedom.
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Do you really think 100% vaccinated or even 85% vaccinated and masks will be required. The cdc changed because the unvaccinated stop wearing them as well.
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