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Quick Update: Gulf Coast COVID numbers

You think OP posted it here because he thought no one would read it and comment on it? Every single damn Covid-related thread turns into the same bullshit. No one posts a Covid thread on the Bunker expecting anything other than what this one has devolved into. This was briefly a rule that @Jay G. Tate enforced. I suspect he’s given up over the shear quantity of them…and not even mods can post as much as you.

No, he posts it here to reach more people, not for personal attention. I would imagine if you saw what he saw every single day, you would want to post it here too. I would imagine Jay allows Covid threads from doctors that see it like he does and can offer his experiences and expertise.
 
TBH, I never really considered that future mutations could also make COVID less deadly until reading this thread. Seems like a valid point though.

That’s typically what viruses do. They become more contagious, but less deadly. I’m just wondering if that this virus will follow the typical pattern given that it was almost certainly genetically engineered/manmade.
 
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I'm pro vaccine. Big fan of them. Can't stress this point enough for the crazies that will reply to me.


Now saying that... I've listened to a few pod cast about covid the last few days and this wasn't from a fringe source, but the thing both these doctors agreed on was that covid was here to stay. That agreed that this type virus couldn't be beat with vaccines or herd immunity, because it could jump from species to species, and therefore we can't stamp it out, or really even stop the mutation of the virus into other forms.

Both agreed the long term hope was that vaccines would keep you from getting deadly sick and that eventually it would morph into a form that was similar to a cold.

This idea goes against the idea that everyone needs to be vaccinated today to stop it from mutating into another form that our vaccines don't protect against, since it's going to mutate regardless of what we do.

Thoughts?
This is quite an apocalyptic scenario.
 
Seriously, he's just sharing data. Not propaganda, no real partisan tilt to it. If you have a problem with data, I don't really know what to tell you. Says a lot about you IMO.
This may be an indictment on society, but it’s some of the best, unbiased information that people can get on a topic that impacts all of us.

Sadly, some people just feel the need to show their ass.
 
As contagious as this thing is now, it is unlikely for the growth in cases and hospitalizations to keep exploding. Eventually, it has to run out of bodies and the number hospitalized is still a small portion of the total number of infected. By the time of the PSU game, it should be burning itself out regardless of vaccination status. The numbers actually should be dropping by the Akron game. One way or another, this pandemic will end soon.
i was trying to be positive.
 
Great way of looking at it! What’s one other deadly disease gonna matter??? Let’s just say oh well and move on!🤦🏻
Well tbh some of those cardiac events are being counted as covid deaths currently.
 
Not really. The thought is we want it to mutate, because pretty much all virus mutate into less serious forms.

The debate really is, can we stop mutations and do we want to.

Vaccines will help us fight the mutations until hopefully it's no worse than a cold.

I hope you’re right on that. Could still be a long road.
 
We have about +/- 10 days till we spike out if we are on the same trajectory as the UK….as Fauci has implied several times. But this virus is a crap shoot so who knows.

Totally a guess but maybe the majority of the breakthroughs are from patients who were vax’d early on. I have no data to back that up and I am in no way involved in the medical field so just throwing a thought out there.

I think different states will peak at different times but these early states are definitely on that 10 day timeline. I just wonder how long the drop takes. Maybe 6-8 weeks until pre-surge numbers? Hope it’s even shorter.
 
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That’s typically what viruses do. They become more contagious, but less deadly. I’m just wondering if that this virus will follow the typical pattern given that it was almost certainly genetically engineered/manmade.
Delta did just that in the UK.
 
Well tbh some of those cardiac events are being counted as covid deaths currently.
So if you have heart disease and Covid puts you over the edge in to your grave, it’s considered a Covid death? No way.
 
Delta did just that in the UK.

Our deaths are already higher than what UK experienced per capita. Many reasons for this I’m sure meaning higher vax rates among adults and elderly, healthier people, less areas with very low vax rate like AL, locked down until July 20th I believe, etc.
 
Covid kills 600K+ Americans in 18 months, and we want to tell everyone what they can or can’t do. Heart disease kills nearly 700K every 12 months and we still asking people to pass the gravy…
I am vaccinated and believe that almost everybody else should get vaccinated as well, but I do not at all support "tell[ing] everybody what they can or can't do." I don't even support mask mandates. It might be different if people choosing not to be vaccinated had a significant effect on others, but from what we have seen, that isn't the case. Yes, some very small number of vaccinated people might contract COVID and get very sick or die from it, but that risk seems every bit as low as for the flu back before this pandemic started and nobody ever gave a crap about flu risk before 2020. People were willing to accept that risk in exchange for freedom. If people are concerned about COVID, they should get vaccinated. If they don't and they die from it, there is no one to blame but themselves. Again, I think people should get vaccinated, but our freedoms are much more important than our safety.

tl;dr - Get vaccinated and give me liberty or give me death.
 
If heart disease had a vaccine, it would be recommended. Also, heart disease doesn’t affect others.
It damn sure does. Heart disease is linked to just about everything, and we spend 1/5 of our GDP on medical care. That impacts everyone.
 
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We passed an unthinkable threshold this morning. Now over 50% of our inpatient beds are now bedded with active COVID patients. 86% of our ICU is now active COVID with 94% of those requiring ventilators. We have pulled doctors from outpatient clinics to come help see those less severe non-Covid patients.

82% of our ER beds are currently inpatient and over 50% of those are COVID as well.

Currently 91% unvaccinated of those admitted with COVID. Only 1 in ICU that has been vaccinated and not on ventilator.

I don’t believe in vaccine mandates and let’s don’t start another thread about that or that people shouldn’t have the right to decide for themselves. This also isn’t a thread about ivermectin or masks. But, we do have many currently hospitalized and in ICU that had been on ivermectin since diagnosis. I don’t care if you take it, just don’t wait too long to get here if you start to decline.

Of note, our governor asked for the USS Comfort/HMS Mercy to make its way here as that our hospitals are the brink of complete collapse.

Just asking for some T’s and P’s for those of us working on the gulf coast and please let it peak soon.
Thank you for your updates. I appreciate the data. Honest data can help people make informed decisions.
 
"Quick Update: Numbers" - - - Thought this was some inside info in to player numbers or something. Since we're in fall practice and all.
your profile says you've been here since 2009. ole 73 would think you'd recognize @mrhickory for his important (IMO) and periodic updates on Covid. I can't recall him posting any "quick update numbers" on any of AU sports teams.

HTH

WDE
 
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We passed an unthinkable threshold this morning. Now over 50% of our inpatient beds are now bedded with active COVID patients. 86% of our ICU is now active COVID with 94% of those requiring ventilators. We have pulled doctors from outpatient clinics to come help see those less severe non-Covid patients.

82% of our ER beds are currently inpatient and over 50% of those are COVID as well.

Currently 91% unvaccinated of those admitted with COVID. Only 1 in ICU that has been vaccinated and not on ventilator.

I don’t believe in vaccine mandates and let’s don’t start another thread about that or that people shouldn’t have the right to decide for themselves. This also isn’t a thread about ivermectin or masks. But, we do have many currently hospitalized and in ICU that had been on ivermectin since diagnosis. I don’t care if you take it, just don’t wait too long to get here if you start to decline.

Of note, our governor asked for the USS Comfort/HMS Mercy to make its way here as that our hospitals are the brink of complete collapse.

Just asking for some T’s and P’s for those of us working on the gulf coast and please let it peak soon.
Prayers Up!
 
There are vastly more members here that appreciate his posts and would like to continue seeing them on the Bunker than there are posters like yourself who can't help but click on them and complain.
@mrhickory is here to share important information. @hsvtiger34 comes in the threads to say he's tired of reading about it. Take each for what they are worth, IMO.
 
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I would argue heart disease has a massive effect on others. Physical passing of a virus/disease isn't the only way to effect others.
"More than 868,000 Americans die of heart disease or stroke every year—that’s one-third of all deaths. These diseases take an economic toll, as well, costing our health care system $214 billion per year and causing $138 billion in lost productivity on the job"


Yea, I’m talking about affecting other people’s health. It’s a silly comparison. People would lose their shit of the federal Gvt started getting people to eat less and exercise like they do with the vaccine. Actually, the same people lose their shit at both. One is much easier to accomplish though.
 
It damn sure does. Heart disease is linked to just about everything, and we spend 1/5 of our GDP on medical care. That impacts everyone.

See above. I’m talking about somebody else’s health.
 
People think hospitals don’t make mistakes. They do all the time. A few years ago, my mom was going to have surgery to fix an irregular heartbeat. I mean we are in surgery prep. She’s ready to go. Then the head guy looks at her chart. Ask her some questions on her symptoms. She had none. He leaves and comes back. He says you all go have a family lunch. We aren’t operating on you. We were stunned. That being said, most aren’t prescribing ivermectin. The op said only 1 of 30 Dr’s where he’s at (ER doctors?), prescribe it. Big study released yesterday that it does nothing. A bigger study being done now though.
I've got 3 friends that took Iver and they felt better within 24 hours. It's worth a try and I think these doctors are missing out on not trying it.
 
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I've got 3 friends that took Iver and they felt better within 24 hours. It's worth a try and I think these doctors are missing out on not trying it.

Well, if you have 3 friends that felt better than let’s do it.
 
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Jesus man. Stop clicking on the threads. Let it go. 99% of the Bunker wants these updates. 99% of the Bunker wants you to stop whining about it too.
Then 99% of the bunker should use the board the Commodore created for it. Oh yes, last I checked i I can reply to threads on a message board. You don’t like it maybe you should stop clicking on my posts because I assure you nothing you say to me is going to change my post 👍🏻
 
"then let's do it".

Prescribe to everybody. I mean 3 people felt better. My bro’s MIL has long Covid. They gave her Ivermevtin. She felt better for a couple of weeks. Then it returned.
 
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