Quick Update: Gulf Coast COVID numbers

[DavistonTiger]

I know these daily updates are frustrating but some other numbers that might make you feel better.

We are still doing over 700k doses per day. Yes, it should be more but that isn't horrible.

Approx 353,205,544 doses have been given, 59.1% to have at least gotten one dose. Over 50% fully vaccinated.

Another 12-ish% 12 or under. That's roughly 71% vaccinated or unable to be vaccinated.

37 Million positive cases, let's say 3/4 of those still got vaccinated, that leaves 9 million more with natural immunity. This gets us up to 73-ish%. We only have approx 27% of people still holding out.

We will give out over 4 million more doses this week and that 27% will drop another notch or two.

We are getting close people. Now go take your vac and let's finish this..

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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[Stumpfan]

I know these daily updates are frustrating but some other numbers that might make you feel better.

We are still doing over 700k doses per day. Yes, it should be more but that isn't horrible.

Approx 353,205,544 doses have been given, enough for 59.1% to have at least gotten one dose. Over 50% fully vaccinated.

Another 12-ish% 12 or under. That's roughly 71% vaccinated or unable to be vaccinated.

37 Million positive cases, let's say 3/4 of those still got vaccinated, that leaves 9 million more with natural immunity. This gets us up to 73-ish%. We only have approx 27% of people still holding out.

We will give out over 4 million more doses this week and that 27% will drop another notch or two.

We are getting close people. Now go take your vac and let's finish this..

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

We have probably had at least 100 million cases by now.

 

[DavistonTiger]

We have probably had at least 100 million cases by now.

That's probably closer to the truth and that means we are even closer.

Just going by one of the "official" numbers.

 

[Auburn93]

In fairness, @Auburn93 thinks you shouldn't vaccinate for anything, anytime. He can correct me if I'm wrong, of course. But his general anti-vax stance kind of tarnishes any views he has on the covid vaccines specifically.

At any rate, I think your main point is the key one: regardless of anything else, vaccination remains the smart thing to do to mitigate the impact of covid. Everything else can be debated and analyzed forever, but the clear, essentially-undeniable evidence is that getting vaccinated is good for people personally, and more people getting vaccinated is good for society generallyl.

You are very wrong. How many millions of people do you think the smallpox vaccine saved?

 

[Big Blue]

In fairness, @Auburn93 thinks you shouldn't vaccinate for anything, anytime. He can correct me if I'm wrong, of course. But his general anti-vax stance kind of tarnishes any views he has on the covid vaccines specifically.

At any rate, I think your main point is the key one: regardless of anything else, vaccination remains the smart thing to do to mitigate the impact of covid. Everything else can be debated and analyzed forever, but the clear, essentially-undeniable evidence is that getting vaccinated is good for people personally, and more people getting vaccinated is good for society generallyl.

I think @Auburn93 would say that he has questions about vaccines and wants more to be done to assure their safety rather than that he is anti-vax, although he does come off that way and it does tarnish his image on the topic. I have busted his chops about that before. I don't think he has too many reservations about the COVID vaccines though, maybe not even as many as he has for some others. Other than using mRNA (or DNA in the case of J&J) there isn't much in these vaccines that can be considered harmful. There seems to be little doubt that vaccination absolutely is the way through this pandemic. Even if there can be some resultant mutations, the vaccines can save a bunch of lives.

 

[MattAU05]

You are very wrong. How many millions of people do you think the smallpox vaccine saved?

Then my apologies. I thought you opposed the whole list of normal childhood vaccinations.

 

[BarkleysSwing]

@mrhickory

I'm pro vaccine. Big fan of them. Can't stress this point enough for the crazies that will reply to me.


Now saying that... I've listened to a few pod cast about covid the last few days and this wasn't from a fringe source, but the thing both these doctors agreed on was that covid was here to stay. That agreed that this type virus couldn't be beat with vaccines or herd immunity, because it could jump from species to species, and therefore we can't stamp it out, or really even stop the mutation of the virus into other forms.

Both agreed the long term hope was that vaccines would keep you from getting deadly sick and that eventually it would morph into a form that was similar to a cold.

This idea goes against the idea that everyone needs to be vaccinated today to stop it from mutating into another form that our vaccines don't protect against, since it's going to mutate regardless of what we do.

Thoughts?

I’ve never heard a single person in the medical field say that the vaccine was going to stop the virus. I’ve seen lots of non-medical folks ASSUME that’s what the vaccine is going to do. I HAVE heard many in the medical field say that the vaccine can keep our hospitals and our economy from shutting down by drastically reducing hospitalizations. I have watched a lot of people let their assumptions and misinformation keep them from getting the shots. Once again proving just how dumb Americans can be.

 

[Auburn93]

I think @Auburn93 would say that he has questions about vaccines and wants more to be done to assure their safety rather than that he is anti-vax, although he does come off that way and it does tarnish his image on the topic. I have busted his chops about that before. I don't think he has too many reservations about the COVID vaccines though, maybe not even as many as he has for some others. Other than using mRNA (or DNA in the case of J&J) there isn't much in these vaccines that can be considered harmful. There seems to be little doubt that vaccination absolutely is the way through this pandemic. Even if there can be some resultant mutations, the vaccines can save a bunch of lives.

Partly true, I do want safe vaccines. This pandemic is a situation of the survival of the fittest. The weak or people with comorbidities are the ones that are being effected the most and dying. If, (a big if) the vaccines are causing more harmful mutations, then it is no longer a survival of the fittest but survival of the vaccinated. That is a win-win for Big Pharma and the government. As much corruption as I've seen in Big Pharma when it comes to vaccines, that scenario doesn't make me feel warm and bubbly.

 

[BarkleysSwing]

I spoke with an administrator at UAB regarding the bed usages, and he said it was a perfect storm, and though a good portion was Covid related, it was also many other patients that have been putting off treatment for two years and are now in dire need. One patient was putting off stomach pains, turns out he has pancreatic cancer. That was just one example of other issues people are having now which are causing these issues. Any of this in your hospital?

A side note: my 17 year old daughter tested positive for Covid last week while on a trip with another family in the Bahamas, last in our family to get it. She is unvaccinated. Two day summer cold and she is all good. The family, she was with, all fully vaccinated, also tested positive and was vastly more sick than my daughter. So go figure...

Everybody’s immune system works differently. Pretty obvious your daughter has a good one and thank God for that blessing. Glad she is okay.

 

[Justin Time]

Did people ask for these updates? Isn't there a COVID board here somewhere... good grief.

Possibly the most useless post in Bunker history. And that's saying something. Congrats.

 

[Stumpfan]

That's probably closer to the truth and that means we are even closer.

Just going by one of the "official" numbers.

Yep. I have big hopes by next summer and maybe that hope is misguided. I think we can knock it down before then but I’m talking flu like deaths and under 5000 daily cases and around 100-150 deaths a day which is about like the flu. Delta, fda approval and kids under 12 will give many more protection.

 

[Stumpfan]

Partly true, I do want safe vaccines. This pandemic is a situation of the survival of the fittest. The weak or people with comorbidities are the ones that are being effected the most and dying. If, (a big if) the vaccines are causing more harmful mutations, then it is no longer a survival of the fittest but survival of the vaccinated. That is a win-win for Big Pharma and the government. As much corruption as I've seen in Big Pharma when it comes to vaccines, that scenario doesn't make me feel warm and bubbly.

See my link above on author of the “chicken” study.

 

[BudS7342]

@mrhickory any good news in the therapeutic and treatment area?

We sure could use a bit of good news in this arena Leo,.. I’m praying for some Divine Intervention!

 

[BudS7342]

I’ve never heard a single person in the medical field say that the vaccine was going to stop the virus. I’ve seen lots of non-medical folks ASSUME that’s what the vaccine is going to do. I HAVE heard many in the medical field say that the vaccine can keep our hospitals and our economy from shutting down by drastically reducing hospitalizations. I have watched a lot of people let their assumptions and misinformation keep them from getting the shots. Once again proving just how dumb Americans can be.

“Assumptions are the mother of all fuk ups” - Travis Dane Under Siege 2

 

[Stumpfan]

We sure could use a bit of good news in this arena Leo,.. I’m praying for some Divine Intervention!

Not a therapeutic but the nasal vaccine at home to prevent Covid even in the nose would be a game changer to stop the spread as it would cut down further on breakthrough infections for vaccinated and natural immunity people. They are pretty far along ok it I think.

 

[au4life_rz]

In fairness, @Auburn93 thinks you shouldn't vaccinate for anything, anytime. He can correct me if I'm wrong, of course. But his general anti-vax stance kind of tarnishes any views he has on the covid vaccines specifically.

At any rate, I think your main point is the key one: regardless of anything else, vaccination remains the smart thing to do to mitigate the impact of covid. Everything else can be debated and analyzed forever, but the clear, essentially-undeniable evidence is that getting vaccinated is good for people personally, and more people getting vaccinated is good for society generallyl.

Unfortunately, that's not 100% true. There are some situations where that approach MAY not be best in the bigger picture scenario, (but I believe I get what you were trying to say).

 

[Auburn93]

See my link above on author of the “chicken” study.

Cam Newton liked two of my posts yesterday, ain't nobody telling me a damn thing after that.

 

[Auburn93]

Then my apologies. I thought you opposed the whole list of normal childhood vaccinations.

Just some of them and the the timing of when they are given.

 

[MattAU05]

Cam Newton liked two of my posts yesterday, ain't nobody telling me a damn thing after that.

I can’t disagree with that.

 

[mrhickory]

"Quick Update: Numbers" - - - Thought this was some inside info in to player numbers or something. Since we're in fall practice and all.

The thing is that if things don’t peak soon, then all of our outlets will be affected. We have had 5 high schools close in the last 2 days because of covid outbreaks. They have only been in school for a week. Those teams will now not be able to start their season until week 4 because of the heat acclimation protocols. Also, we are only 4.5 hours from Tuscaloosa and 3.5 hours from Auburn. One county over from Mobile. The states of Louisiana and Mississippi are in a bad way and if things don’t turn around, it will affect SEC football as well.

I was looking forward to the late September trip to Red Stick and Saints games but that is in doubt and that sucks.

 

[Jhac]

‘Joe Rogan Is Getting This Completely Wrong,’ Says The Scientist Who Conducted The Vaccine Study

“He's taking very careful work about evolutionary scenarios of the future, and from that, erroneously concluding that people should not be vaccinated now," says Andrew Read, professor of biology and entomology at Pennsylvania State University and author of the study.

www.forbes.com

Not a supporter of using this against getting vaccinated as i can see the effectiveness of the vaccine against severe illness and am vaccinated myself. but rather to oppose your suggestion that mutations will stop if everyone is vaccinated.

“But unlike the COVID mRNA vaccines, the chicken vaccine “didn’t stop transmission at all.” And this is one of the key differences between what was being studied in Read’s paper and our current situation with the global pandemic. “Those [vaccinated] chickens just kept churning out the virus for weeks and weeks and weeks.” Again, this is a key difference. “It’s a very different virus from SARS-2. A key issue here is transmissibility.”

quote from article you linked isn’t what we’re seeing. We know vaccinated people are getting the virus, albeit at a lower rate from the early studies, but are they also spreading it?

also his metric of using hospitalizations for gauging where the virus is spreading is faulty as the vaccine is really effective at keeping vaccinated individuals who do get infected out of the hospital. We just don’t know how many vaccinated people are being infected and passing on the virus.

“At the moment, the vast majority of the replication is happening in unvaccinated people. You can tell that because the majority of cases in the hospital are unvaccinated individuals.”

in video below director of the Oxford vaccine groups admits that vaccinated individuals are still being infected and it’s possible that a new variant will emerge that is “better at transmitting through vaccinated individuals” which would only occur through replications and mutations occurring in vaccinated people. That does mirror the abstract from the study I linked.

 

[MattAU05]

The thing is that if things don’t peak soon, then all of our outlets will be affected. We have had 5 high schools close in the last 2 days because of covid outbreaks. They have only been in school for a week. Those teams will now not be able to start their season until week 4 because of the heat acclimation protocols. Also, we are only 4.5 hours from Tuscaloosa and 3.5 hours from Auburn. One county over from Mobile. The states of Louisiana and Mississippi are in a bad way and if things don’t turn around, it will affect SEC football as well.

And this is why Harsin’s failure to push vaccination among his team hard is his biggest failure as a head coach thus far. And I’ll stand by that. Of course at this point, it really isn’t about a single team’s vaccination rate. Whole states and regions are the problem.

We had the damn vaccines. We actually had enough. We figured out the logistics. And people just didn’t do it. Or not enough to build large-scale immunity before Delta arrived and ravaged us. It’s so frustrating that the main thing that is preventing us from beating this thing is people just not wanting to use the best tool we have to beat it. And now it is probably too late to do anything about this surge aside from letting it peter out. And then hope we can develop good boosters against other variants.

And we might lose a full football and basketball season again too. I know that isn’t the most important thing, but man I need those to happen.

 

[Stumpfan]

Not a supporter of using this against getting vaccinated as i can see the effectiveness of the vaccine against severe illness and am vaccinated myself. but rather to oppose your suggestion that mutations will stop if everyone is vaccinated.

“But unlike the COVID mRNA vaccines, the chicken vaccine “didn’t stop transmission at all.” And this is one of the key differences between what was being studied in Read’s paper and our current situation with the global pandemic. “Those [vaccinated] chickens just kept churning out the virus for weeks and weeks and weeks.” Again, this is a key difference. “It’s a very different virus from SARS-2. A key issue here is transmissibility.”

quote from article you linked isn’t what we’re seeing. We know vaccinated people are getting the virus, albeit at a lower rate from the early studies, but are they also spreading it?

also his metric of using hospitalizations for gauging where the virus is spreading is faulty as the vaccine is really effective at keeping vaccinated individuals who do get infected out of the hospital. We just don’t know how many vaccinated people are being infected and passing on the virus.

“At the moment, the vast majority of the replication is happening in unvaccinated people. You can tell that because the majority of cases in the hospital are unvaccinated individuals.”

in video below director of the Oxford vaccine groups admits that vaccinated individuals are still being infected and it’s possible that a new variant will emerge that is “better at transmitting through vaccinated individuals” which would only occur through replications and mutations occurring in vaccinated people. That does mirror the abstract from the study I linked.

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They vaccinated and unvaccinated aren’t in the same galaxy of getting Covid or passing it on.
And I’m not saying variants will stop. I’m simply stating that the vaccinations don’t increase them or make them more deadly or contagious.

You can scroll down this Twitter thread if you want to get to the actual study.

 

[Stumpfan]

And this is why Harsin’s failure to push vaccination among his team hard is his biggest failure as a head coach thus far. And I’ll stand by that. Of course at this point, it really isn’t about a single team’s vaccination rate. Whole states and regions are the problem.

We had the damn vaccines. We actually had enough. We figured out the logistics. And people just didn’t do it. Or not enough to build large-scale immunity before Delta arrived and ravaged us. It’s so frustrating that the main thing that is preventing us from beating this thing is people just not wanting to use the best tool we have to beat it. And now it is probably too late to do anything about this surge aside from letting it peter out. And then hope we can develop good boosters against other variants.

And we might lose a full football and basketball season again too. I know that isn’t the most important thing, but man I need those to happen.

No matter what variant it is, we won’t have to adjust much on the mRNA vaccines for it. It mutates way less than influenza. I’m assuming we don’t get a variant that heavily evades the vaccines and most don’t think we will. If it does, most say it will be a much weaker/less deadly variant.

 

[au4life_rz]

I’ve never heard a single person in the medical field say that the vaccine was going to stop the virus. I’ve seen lots of non-medical folks ASSUME that’s what the vaccine is going to do. I HAVE heard many in the medical field say that the vaccine can keep our hospitals and our economy from shutting down by drastically reducing hospitalizations. I have watched a lot of people let their assumptions and misinformation keep them from getting the shots. Once again proving just how dumb Americans can be.

I don't want to kick off a big debate, but if you go back and look at every article, every study, every tweet and pretty much every comment from all scientists, researchers and doctors, they are essentially giving the impression that the new vaccines would provide sterilizing immunity.

While those exact words may not have been used, the definite overall impression was that "Once you are fully vaccinated, you are invincible/good". You are 99.xxx% safe, and can "get back to normal". You can stop wearing masks, stop social distancing, conduct family gathering and begin participating in mass spreading events. Most everyone updated their policies so that vaccinated folks weren't even checked or tested. They got automatic entry into concerts, events, flying etc.. All of the lead commenters on social media such as Dr. Monica Ghandi said, "Two fully vaccinated people can be as close as two spoons in a drawer".

I've spent the past couple of months railing against this type of misinformation. Of course, we understand WHY they were using that type of propaganda, (trying to encourage as many as possible to take the vaccines, and feeling it was okay to operate to a "nobel lie"), but it came back and bit us in the rear. You'll still see this type of slant from most who comment now. Then, once it was shown that fully vaccinated could maintain significant viral load and spread COVID to others, everyone started saying, "Oh, we never said they were going to provide sterilizing immunity". They were only intended to reduce severe illness and death etc.. Okay, if that was indeed the case, then why did we issue guidance that told folks to stop all of the best practices that minimize spread of airborne respiratory disease? That type of equivocation creates more doubt and distrust in the general public, (for those that catch on to what's really going on), and it works against the ultimate goal.

Despite these major gaffes, there doesn't appear to be any doubt that the vaccines appear to drastically reduce severe illness requiring hospitalization, and/or death.

 

[au4life_rz]

They vaccinated and unvaccinated aren’t in the same galaxy of getting Covid or passing it on.
And I’m not saying variants will stop. I’m simply stating that the vaccinations don’t increase them or make them more deadly or contagious.

You can scroll down this Twitter thread if you want to get to the actual study.

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You're creating a strawman, (as usual). The debate is NOT about whether vaccinated and unvaccinated are equal in spreading COVID and serving as vectors to potentially allow the virus to mutate. If the numbers/data reported are remotely close to solid, vaccinated folks will do these things at a much, much lower rate, (as anyone with a brian would EXPECT).

The issue is that if the fully vaccinated can serve as a vector and maintain a significant viral load, and spread COVID to others, (both unvaccinated and even other fully vaccinated individuals), at all, it may keep this thing going. Let's say we're wildly successful with the mass vaccination campaign, and we get up to 85% or so. That still leaves 265 million people that could support some level of viral load. If only 5%-15% percent of them support enough load to allow mutation, it could still lead to the virus mutating into a vaccine evading strain, (though no doubt, we wouldn't be likely to have the hospitalization issue we're facing now).

 

[Big Blue]

They vaccinated and unvaccinated aren’t in the same galaxy of getting Covid or passing it on.
And I’m not saying variants will stop. I’m simply stating that the vaccinations don’t increase them or make them more deadly or contagious.

You can scroll down this Twitter thread if you want to get to the actual study.

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This is actually quite encouraging. @Auburn93, dos this alleviate some of the concerns you have expressed about vaccination and mutation?

 

[Stumpfan]

You're creating a strawman, (as usual). The debate is NOT about whether vaccinated and unvaccinated are equal in spreading COVID and serving as vectors to potentially allow the virus to mutate. If the numbers/data reported are remotely close to solid, vaccinated folks will do these things at a much, much lower rate, (as anyone with a brian would EXPECT).

The issue is that if the fully vaccinated can serve as a vector and maintain a significant viral load, and spread COVID to others, (both unvaccinated and even other fully vaccinated individuals), at all, it may keep this thing going. Let's say we're wildly successful with the mass vaccination campaign, and we get up to 85% or so. That still leaves 265 million people that could support some level of viral load. If only 5%-15% percent of them support enough load to allow mutation, it could still lead to the virus mutating into a vaccine evading strain, (though no doubt, we wouldn't be likely to have the hospitalization issue we're facing now).

Again, if it ever mutates to evade the vaccines, most scientists believe it would have to become very weak to do that and therefore wouldn’t be a threat. Also, people keeo going with this silly theory on the vaccines making variants worse. This thing should be as concerning as the flu a year from now. If not, we are screwed.

 

[FeelLikeAStranger]

"Hospital system failure" is a bit of fear mongering. There are available beds all over the state, they just haven't been designated for COVID for some reason.

Staffing shortage is more crucial than bed shortage

 

[whynotAU]

Mrhickory and others also believe it’s affecting younger people under 50 a lot more than alpha or previous variants. If it was simply due to the elderly being vaccinated, hospitalizations wouldn’t be so high. I mean FL passed its previous high of hospitalizations. It’s probably also due to it reaching more people due to how contagious it is.

I believe the worst failure of the COVID-19 fight occurred in May when they lifted mask restrictions and demonstrated far too much faith in vaccinations to materialize. It was the turning point that got people more comfortable and they starts to go back to normal life without any precautions.

 

[whynotAU]

I know these daily updates are frustrating but some other numbers that might make you feel better.

We are still doing over 700k doses per day. Yes, it should be more but that isn't horrible.

Approx 353,205,544 doses have been given, 59.1% to have at least gotten one dose. Over 50% fully vaccinated.

Another 12-ish% 12 or under. That's roughly 71% vaccinated or unable to be vaccinated.

37 Million positive cases, let's say 3/4 of those still got vaccinated, that leaves 9 million more with natural immunity. This gets us up to 73-ish%. We only have approx 27% of people still holding out.

We will give out over 4 million more doses this week and that 27% will drop another notch or two.

We are getting close people. Now go take your vac and let's finish this..

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Very good analysis.

 

[Stumpfan]

I believe the worst failure of the COVID-19 fight occurred in May when they lifted mask restrictions and demonstrated far too much faith in vaccinations to materialize. It was the turning point that got people more comfortable and they starts to go back to normal life without any precautions.

I disagree. If that was the case, I think spike comes sooner. Also, I think most were back to normal before then. I mean restaurants and bars never has mask mandates since you don’t have to wear one while eating or drinking. It may have been a mistake as they didn’t foresee this causing everybody going maskless. Most of it is delta, weather and low vaccinated areas. Jmo

 

[Southernsky43]

Yore response is contradicting @DavistonTiger . He mentioned if the virus is able cross species, they will harbor the virus (more hosts, it will mutate regardless of human vaccination). Elimination might not be possible, just lowering symptoms until it attenuates like OC43 might of done with the Russian Flu of 1889.

It's theorized Smallpox was eliminated because humans were the only hosts. It's why the flu isn't eliminated as it has many hosts that humans contact regularly (birds, cows, pigs, etc.)

Humans aren't the only species to be infected by SAR-COV-2. However, you are correct vaccinations will slow mutations due to humans being in more dense populations.

Our cat had it when the rest of us had it! I shit you not! Cat was sneezing repeatedly! Seriously.

 

[Auburn93]

This is actually quite encouraging. @Auburn93, dos this alleviate some of the concerns you have expressed about vaccination and mutation?

There's always something about Facebook posts that use the term "Debunking." Call me a believer and sign me up.

 

[Stumpfan]

There's always something about Facebook posts that use the term "Debunking." Call me a believer and sign me up.

Read the study. Great news even though most knew it was bs before this.

 

[Auburn93]

Read the study. Great news even though most knew it was bs before this.

Send it to me or tag me in it, I don't have time to read most of these long COVID threads

 

[easterwood]

Our cat had it when the rest of us had it! I shit you not! Cat was sneezing repeatedly! Seriously.

The Snow Leopards at the San Diego Zoo caught it!

Snow Leopard at the San Diego Zoo Suspected Positive for COVID-19

SAN DIEGO (July 23, 2021) – A male snow leopard at the San Diego Zoo is suspected to be positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. On Thursday, July 22, wildlife care specialists noticed that the snow leopard had a cough and nasal discharge.

sandiegozoowildlifealliance.org

 

[Jim in Scranton]

I’ve never heard a single person in the medical field say that the vaccine was going to stop the virus. I’ve seen lots of non-medical folks ASSUME that’s what the vaccine is going to do. I HAVE heard many in the medical field say that the vaccine can keep our hospitals and our economy from shutting down by drastically reducing hospitalizations. I have watched a lot of people let their assumptions and misinformation keep them from getting the shots. Once again proving just how dumb Americans can

Well, Fauxci said it, but I’m not so sure he qualifies to be called someone in the medical field anymore.

Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, said during a discussion on Sunday about the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) decision to drop mask recommendations for fully vaccinated individuals that vaccinated people become "dead ends" for COVID-19.

 

[Hobbes227]

The US is loaded with fats.Seems to be a bad group for COVID

 

[Stumpfan]

Send it to me or tag me in it, I don't have time to read most of these long COVID threads

Full vaccination suppresses SARS-CoV-2 delta variant mutation frequency

This study presents the first evidence that full vaccination against COVID-19 suppresses emergent mutations of SARS-CoV-2 delta variants. An evolution algorithm, Tajima’s D test with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks. Question It remains...

www.medrxiv.org