Quick Update: Gulf Coast COVID numbers

[Stumpfan]

Got it. Excuse some spin, and stacked, tilted (mis)information, (when it supports your chosen narrative), but jump on it with both feet and condemn it when it goes against your narrative.

We're back to the philosophical question of whether it's okay to operate to a "noble lie". I see the lack of integrity and use of deceit every time several opine on this topic.

You gotta think big picture. If not, you’ll end up writing multiple very long posts on here and… oh wait.

 

[mrhickory]

And if you don't it's literally 1%.

Would you willingly load a 100 round revolver with 1 bullet and play Russian roulette? Why take that chance of a devastating result? It is just poor risk management/mitigation. I can’t tell ya what to do. But I personally would not want to take a 1 out of 100 chance at death with young kids at home when there is something safe and effective and free that dramatically decreases chances of death.

 

[gatorz1209]

Would you willingly load a 100 round revolver with 1 bullet and play Russian roulette? Why take that chance of a devastating result? It is just poor risk management/mitigation. I can’t tell ya what to do. But I personally would not want to take a 1 out of 100 chance at death with young kids at home when there is something safe and effective and free that dramatically decreases chances of death.

And it you don't shoot yourself in the head, you get a grand prize of nothing for not dying.

 

[yy4u]

I know these daily updates are frustrating but some other numbers that might make you feel better.

We are still doing over 700k doses per day. Yes, it should be more but that isn't horrible.

Approx 353,205,544 doses have been given, 59.1% to have at least gotten one dose. Over 50% fully vaccinated.

Another 12-ish% 12 or under. That's roughly 71% vaccinated or unable to be vaccinated.

37 Million positive cases, let's say 3/4 of those still got vaccinated, that leaves 9 million more with natural immunity. This gets us up to 73-ish%. We only have approx 27% of people still holding out.

We will give out over 4 million more doses this week and that 27% will drop another notch or two.

We are getting close people. Now go take your vac and let's finish this..

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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this is about the same as Gus going 6-4

 

[jeffgilmer]

We passed an unthinkable threshold this morning. Now over 50% of our inpatient beds are now bedded with active COVID patients. 86% of our ICU is now active COVID with 94% of those requiring ventilators. We have pulled doctors from outpatient clinics to come help see those less severe non-Covid patients.

82% of our ER beds are currently inpatient and over 50% of those are COVID as well.

Currently 91% unvaccinated of those admitted with COVID. Only 1 in ICU that has been vaccinated and not on ventilator.

I don’t believe in vaccine mandates and let’s don’t start another thread about that or that people shouldn’t have the right to decide for themselves. This also isn’t a thread about ivermectin or masks. But, we do have many currently hospitalized and in ICU that had been on ivermectin since diagnosis. I don’t care if you take it, just don’t wait too long to get here if you start to decline.

Of note, our governor asked for the USS Comfort/HMS Mercy to make its way here as that our hospitals are the brink of complete collapse.

Just asking for some T’s and P’s for those of us working on the gulf coast and please let it peak soon.

What percent of the unvaccinated are in for the second time? Do you have those numbers?

 

[mrhickory]

What percent of the unvaccinated are in for the second time? Do you have those numbers?

We currently have 13 out of 101 inpatients with documented reinfections. We have 3 in ICU and 1 on ventilator.

 

[yy4u]

What percent of the unvaccinated are in for the second time? Do you have those numbers?

Just because you are vaccinated, does not mean you should not be taking precautions, especially if you are immune-compromised.

And if you are relying on already having covid as a shield, that’s an even bigger gamble. Previous cases offer a larger variation of immune system strength vs vax, so no set answer there.

 

[vanceme]

We currently have 13 out of 101 inpatients with documented reinfections. We have 3 in ICU and 1 on ventilator.

That is amazing. We went from reinfection being a statistical blip to now it is at 13% of all cases. This is why I went and got the vaccine.

Any idea if any of those 13, 3 or 1 had also been vaccinated?

 

[mrhickory]

That is amazing. We went from reinfection being a statistical blip to now it is at 13% of all cases. This is why I went and got the vaccine.

Any idea if any of those 13, 3 or 1 had also been vaccinated?

None so far. But of note, in our Regeneron infusions, we were at 18% reinfections (13% breakthrough) over the last 2 days. I said that Delta is different and it is showing itself to be just that. My wife is working in the infusion clinic. We have maintenance and lawn care taking vitals. It’s a wild ride right now.

 

[gatorz1209]

Posted this in another thread, but here's a good look at how the UK's doing with the Delta variant. Note that they're a highly vaccinated population.

 

[Stumpfan]

That is amazing. We went from reinfection being a statistical blip to now it is at 13% of all cases. This is why I went and got the vaccine.

Any idea if any of those 13, 3 or 1 had also been vaccinated?

I told you that when you posted 199 times that natural immunity was basically full proof.

 

[TigerTime099]

Would you willingly load a 100 round revolver with 1 bullet and play Russian roulette? Why take that chance of a devastating result? It is just poor risk management/mitigation. I can’t tell ya what to do. But I personally would not want to take a 1 out of 100 chance at death with young kids at home when there is something safe and effective and free that dramatically decreases chances of death.

The Russian roulette is a terrible comparison.

 

[OrigAUgirl]

It’s scary to think about, but we had a similar experience when my mom was in the hospital in 2010. There were several nursing errors. She sat for several hours with an IV in her arm that no one ever started. You need someone fairly knowledgeable to advocate for your care and so many people don’t have that.

ABSOLUTELY. If people you love are elderly or out of it at all, you MUST have an advocate there in hospital for them..making notes, keeping track etc.

 

[Big Blue]

Posted this in another thread, but here's a good look at how the UK's doing with the Delta variant. Note that they're a highly vaccinated population.

Looks like the vaccines beat the dog crap out of delta.

 

[Stumpfan]

Looks like the vaccines beat the dog crap out of delta.

But…but there are breakthrough infections.

 

[1stString]

Did people ask for these updates? Isn't there a COVID board here somewhere... good grief.

What's your issue with someone posting about it? Not vaccinated? Feelings hurt? Just info the OP is posting.

 

[au4life_rz]

ABSOLUTELY. If people you love are elderly or out of it at all, you MUST have an advocate there in hospital for them..making notes, keeping track etc.

If you do not have family there to really follow up and keep an eye out, there are many in the "medical community" that feel they know best, and they will check folks on up outta here with the quickness. #NewSchoolEuthenasia

 

[aualan30]

We passed an unthinkable threshold this morning. Now over 50% of our inpatient beds are now bedded with active COVID patients. 86% of our ICU is now active COVID with 94% of those requiring ventilators. We have pulled doctors from outpatient clinics to come help see those less severe non-Covid patients.

82% of our ER beds are currently inpatient and over 50% of those are COVID as well.

Currently 91% unvaccinated of those admitted with COVID. Only 1 in ICU that has been vaccinated and not on ventilator.

I don’t believe in vaccine mandates and let’s don’t start another thread about that or that people shouldn’t have the right to decide for themselves. This also isn’t a thread about ivermectin or masks. But, we do have many currently hospitalized and in ICU that had been on ivermectin since diagnosis. I don’t care if you take it, just don’t wait too long to get here if you start to decline.

Of note, our governor asked for the USS Comfort/HMS Mercy to make its way here as that our hospitals are the brink of complete collapse.

Just asking for some T’s and P’s for those of us working on the gulf coast and please let it peak soon.

Hey, I am Nocturnist here in NW Arkansas covering ICU too and I had to intubate several under 30 yo this past week. 91% also are unvaccinated and the average age here in this area is 43.

 

[aubscott]

I can't wait to get my booster.

Have you considered getting a "off the books" booster? I hear that's all the rage these days.

Me ... I was vaccinated in April and figure that I can wait another month for a legit booster.

 

[Stumpfan]

Have you considered getting a "off the books" booster? I hear that's all the rage these days.

Me ... I was vaccinated in April and figure that I can wait another month for a legit booster.

We aren’t going to NEED boosters unless you’re older or have immunity issues. They might offer one in 6 months for those that can’t stand the idea of catching it with minor or zero symptoms.

 

[jdAU08]

FWIW. My statement this morning was out of line. I’ve sent Mr Hick. an apology. For clarity, we have the vaccine. Just tired of reading about this damn virus every day. Either way, the OP was just an update from a doc in the trenches

 

[gatorz1209]

FWIW. My statement this morning was out of line. I’ve sent Mr Hick. an apology. For clarity, we have the vaccine. Just tired of reading about this damn virus every day. Either way, the OP was just an update from a doc in the trenches

 

[jeffgilmer]

We currently have 13 out of 101 inpatients with documented reinfections. We have 3 in ICU and 1 on ventilator.

Thank you so much for the actual data. It is greatly appreciated. I thank you for what you bring to this board. It is posters like you that are the reason I love this place!

 

[au4life_rz]

Hey, I am Nocturnist here in NW Arkansas covering ICU too and I had to intubate several under 30 yo this past week. 91% also are unvaccinated and the average age here in this area is 43.

What is your opinion as to why so many younger folks are getting popped?

1) Just an artifact of having more in that population available since vaccination rates are so much higher with the older population

2) There's really something that's drastically different about the Delta strain that's allowing it to impact younger folks

3) The fact that they are more likely to be out and about mingling and/or not following best practices when out

4) Something else

 

[jeffgilmer]

Just because you are vaccinated, does not mean you should not be taking precautions, especially if you are immune-compromised.

And if you are relying on already having covid as a shield, that’s an even bigger gamble. Previous cases offer a larger variation of immune system strength vs vax, so no set answer there.

I am unvaccinated. I had Covid back in early November. I had mild symptoms with no antibodies. Now I have the antibodies. I am not very concerned, but I am not relying on anything brother. I work remotely out of my home. I am around very few people. Mr. Hickory brings great data to this board. I trust him. I asked him a question and he gave me an answer. That’s what it is all about. I am trying to make decisions in the best interest of my family based on all of the information available.

 

[aubscott]

What is your opinion as to why so many younger folks are getting popped?

1) Just an artifact of having more in that population available since vaccination rates are so much higher with the older population

2) There's really something that's drastically different about the Delta strain that's allowing it to impact younger folks

3) The fact that they are more likely to be out and about mingling and/or not following best practices when out

4) Something else

 

[FeelLikeAStranger]

None so far. But of note, in our Regeneron infusions, we were at 18% reinfections (13% breakthrough) over the last 2 days. I said that Delta is different and it is showing itself to be just that. My wife is working in the infusion clinic. We have maintenance and lawn care taking vitals. It’s a wild ride right now.

You have maintenance & landscaping staff taking vitals at the hospital?
Wow
And people still think this isn’t a bad, bad situation.

 

[WDEinal]

We passed an unthinkable threshold this morning. Now over 50% of our inpatient beds are now bedded with active COVID patients. 86% of our ICU is now active COVID with 94% of those requiring ventilators. We have pulled doctors from outpatient clinics to come help see those less severe non-Covid patients.

82% of our ER beds are currently inpatient and over 50% of those are COVID as well.

Currently 91% unvaccinated of those admitted with COVID. Only 1 in ICU that has been vaccinated and not on ventilator.

I don’t believe in vaccine mandates and let’s don’t start another thread about that or that people shouldn’t have the right to decide for themselves. This also isn’t a thread about ivermectin or masks. But, we do have many currently hospitalized and in ICU that had been on ivermectin since diagnosis. I don’t care if you take it, just don’t wait too long to get here if you start to decline.

Of note, our governor asked for the USS Comfort/HMS Mercy to make its way here as that our hospitals are the brink of complete collapse.

Just asking for some T’s and P’s for those of us working on the gulf coast and please let it peak soon.

Come on people. Just get the dame shot. Is it perfect-no, but overwhelming numbers show that the majority of people on ventilators haven’t had it. And for the people that have had the shot, if they get it, it is largely more mild.

 

[Stumpfan]

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He has a lot of good info but I can’t trust a board member of Pfizer on boosters.

 

[Lynyrd Skynyrd]

Just because you are vaccinated, does not mean you should not be taking precautions, especially if you are immune-compromised.

And if you are relying on already having covid as a shield, that’s an even bigger gamble. Previous cases offer a larger variation of immune system strength vs vax, so no set answer there.

Haha

 

[Lynyrd Skynyrd]

Come on people. Just get the dame shot. Is it perfect-no, but overwhelming numbers show that the majority of people on ventilators haven’t had it. And for the people that have had the shot, if they get it, it is largely more mild.

Says who?

 

[Stumpfan]

I am unvaccinated. I had Covid back in early November. I had mild symptoms with no antibodies. Now I have the antibodies. I am not very concerned, but I am not relying on anything brother. I work remotely out of my home. I am around very few people. Mr. Hickory brings great data to this board. I trust him. I asked him a question and he gave me an answer. That’s what it is all about. I am trying to make decisions in the best interest of my family based on all of the information available.

A lot of studies out there on natural immunity plus a moderna shot meaning one shot.

 

[WDEinal]

Says who?

Says the stats LS. But if you can’t see it clearly, you aren’t going to

 

[sandiegoaubie]

Shout out to the RNs on here. Doing CPR in full ppe for upwards of 45 minutes on a positive COVID patient is not a fun experience. Thank you all

 

[mrhickory]

 

[aubscott]

He has a lot of good info but I can’t trust a board member of Pfizer on boosters.

I can live with that .... the info that I wanted everybody to glean was the hypothesis that the case counts could be a factor of 10-20x higher than reported which would mean that the incidence of child presenting symptoms of COVID (and potential hospitalizations) still might be quite low proportionally.

 

[mrhickory]

@Lynyrd Skynyrd

 

[FeelLikeAStranger]

Damn
I used to live very close to the “mid-city” (midtown) General for years.

 

[au4life_rz]

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Thank you sir. He makes a point that I've been making regarding there being NO WAY we can accurately determine the number of vaccinated folks with breakthrough cases, because SO MANY are asymptomatic, or they have very mild symptoms and think they just have a cold, so they don't go get tested. It's always interesting to hear yet another opinion and add it to the data pile.

The danger is that these folks are still carrying significant viral loads, and interacting with lots of other people, (both vaccinated and unvaccinated), passing COVID to them. Hidden spread, just beneath the surface, (as I said I thought might be the case, back in May). Unvaccinated will probably continue to get lit up, until we start back following best practices. It was a HORRIBLE mistake to tell everyone who was vaccinated that they could "get back to normal". We needed to continue following best practices and err on the side of caution.

 

[Stumpfan]

I can live with that .... the info that I wanted everybody to glean was the hypothesis that the case counts could be a factor of 10-20x higher than reported which would mean that the incidence of child presenting symptoms of COVID (and potential hospitalizations) still might be quite low proportionally.

The case counts could be that high. Schools in south going back in now and then other half goes back after Labor Day. Delta and vaccines combined probably vaccinating a million a day right now.