Yeah we are gonna have to agree to disagree here. I’ve had the vaccination by the way.
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We understand it but plenty of covid cases of vaccinated people. Between 50% plus people who’ve had covid we have plenty of immunity on the team. It’s just dumasses like you that don’t understand that
I guess The Bunker is my side piece:
How do you explain the (apparently) large discrepancy in vax numbers for AU versus UA and UGA? What's the variable causing the large differential?
So...what part of this conflicts with my post to which you replied? Or is your point to actually support what I said?
Agree. Now that stupidity has be weaponized in US politics it will be tough to get the Genie back in the bottle...
How would I know? But you heard from JayG that CBH is encouraging and the med staff is providing the information. Do you want him to mandate it or punishing those that don't? I have no inside knowledge just going by what the site owners are telling us.
Yeah, that Daniel Lucio character is batsh*t crazy. It would be completely unsurprising if he is literally posting from an insane asylum.
I cannot believe your trying to be rational with Christopher Key himself. Just look at some of the nonsensical things he says. He’s too far gone to talk to.No, they are not and it's asinine to say that they are.
No, it's that roughly 8x-15x as many people have died from this than they have from flu in any given year and it's still not done.
2017-18 shows 61,000 estimated deaths from the flu. It was by far the worst flu season we've had in recent history.
Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden | CDC
These page includes information about the estimated burden of influenza from past seasons, including tables of the estimated influenza disease burden (and 95% credible interval [Cr I]) by age group.www.cdc.gov
The chart there goes back to the 2010-11 flu season. All of the other flu seasons had between 12,000 to 51,000 deaths per season, most of them were in the 20-40k range.
Like I said, we have had 10x as many deaths from COVID as we had in our worst flu season. Some flu seasons we've had as low as 12k death - making COVID 52x more deadly than that flu season. The infectiousness (r-naught value) was already mutliple times higher than influenza but with delta its approaching the same infectious level as the measles.
What we know is that every place we measure, every way we look at the data, the delta variant is causing more young people to get infected than previous variants and we know that overwhelmingly, those who are getting seriously ill, being hospitalized, put in ICU or dying are unvaccinated people. Stop with the bullshit that we don't know how effective they are. The vaccines are by far the best weapon against COVID. Period.
The analogy is perfectly fine. It was one among many. We have many rights. Rights have limits and boundaries. For instance, my first amendment right to free speech doesn't mean I can knowingly spread lies and falsehoods about others with no consequences. Laws against libel, slander, defamation of character and so on place limits on my free speech. I have the right to vote, but its subject to laws and regulations that can curtail that right - such as voter identification requirements, voting only at specified locations (even if they are inconvenient for me), possibly having my voting rights stripped if I commit certain felonies. I have a right to keep and bear arms, but not any kind of arms I wish. I can own a handgun or a semi-automatic rifle for instance but there are prohibitions or severe restrictions on my ability to keep and bear other types of arms such as a Tomahawk missile, a Patriot missile battery, various types of explosives, nuclear weapons, etc.
The point was simply that none of our rights are absolute. They have limits. Society, through our government, can place (and always has placed) some restrictions on them. This is no different.
I'm not crazy. You just live in an echo chamber and don't know regular people.
What's so hard to get? You think people must be crazy if they're not scared of losing their sense of smell?
You are probably carrying @bprockman v6.9's baby right now.
Yes, that's the only thing that happens when you catch COVID...Fvcking brilliant.
If you have a heart attack or stroke...you gonna call him and ask what to do?
Asking for a Bunker.
If I have an erection for more than 4 hours I'll call your mom
LSU is in the process of making it mandatory for all students now that it's FDA approved. Probably will see several Universities move in that direction. Gonna be just like having to get a TB test in order to enroll. It's in the University's interest to keep campus safe and prevent mass spread of a virus. Too many people are focused on the fact that you can still catch it while being vaccinated, and not realizing that Hospitals cannot sustain the current # of hospitalizations they are seeing, and fact is that's due to the number of unvaccinated individuals in the area.
I disagree. Auburn is not at any disadvantage at all unless a major player were to get Covid, but then who’s to say a vaccinated bammer starting QB doesn’t cath Covid too. It’s happening and we are seeing more and more of vaccinated people getting these new variants. IF Auburn has more players to test then yes there’s a small chance one is noticed but that’s no guarantee any starter or player will test positive. I would also bet most of the team has probably already had it at some point. Also, who’s to say all our starters and major players are vaccinated and maybe the ones that still aren’t are younger kids or kids that won’t contribute anyway. We also now have full FDA approval for Pfizer as of today so maybe that puts more people at ease to get it. I know I’ve heard that out and about in my travels as one reason is people are nervous about a non approved vaccine. Now that it is, maybe that helps. Who knows.
I said that the religious exemption didn't apply to colleges and universities in Alabama. You pushed back against that. I just verified for you that this is indeed the case. Each college decides its own vaccination policies - which ones are required and what, if any, exemptions they offer. There's nothing in Alabama state law that confers the right to a religious exemption from required vaccinations for students attending public colleges and universities in the state.
The rest was a side note - that even Alabama law allows for exemptions to be set aside, even for k-12, during an epidemic or the threat of one.
Sometimes you offer a rebuttal to stupidity, not because you think you can convince the person offering the idiotic statements, but because there are people silently reading these threads that need to see facts offered to combat this nonsense.I cannot believe your trying to be rational with Christopher Key himself. Just look at some of the nonsensical things he says. He’s too far gone to talk to.
PhD in Education (universally acknowledged as the least rigorous course of study in existence) who lives in OXFORD FN OHIO.
He did not go to Oxford University, and he has no connection to any form of STEM education or experience.
He seems to be, against all odds, just as stupid as you are.
I'm sure you are a great judge of stupidity. Sean Brooks is a common name. Either listen to him or listen to Dr. Fauci that hasn't seen a patient in 45 years. He is smart as a whip
This is about Harsin’s ability to get his team vaccinated. Other coaches don’t seem to have the same problems.
1. Our state is (basically) last in education.
2. There was a rally in Cullman, AL this weekend where a certain previous president, that those in attendance love quite fondly, told everyone to get vaccinated. They jeered and boo'ed him.
3. Our state is (basically) last in vaccination. Tied with Mississippi.
... and you are here stating "these players are making informed decisions". Ok. Sure, they may be making decisions, but I don't think they're informed.
Honest question: Why do you think Alabamians are so much wiser about the dangers of vaccination than everyone else?
Missing your head coach, your defensive coordinator (with your OC being forced into his own coaching bubble, and multiple players in the two most important week of fall camp is extremely detrimental. It doesn't matter who you play the first two weeks. A team normally improves from A to B to C to D in those two weeks then D to E after the first game, and from there you're roughly who you are going to be (at least relative to the competition).
But in this case our opponents will be going A to E while we work on going A to B. It may not be deadly, but it's going to set us back.
What does living in Alabama have to do with these players receiving information from Auburn's medical staff like Dr. Goodlett? You take the jump to Conclusions mat to a whole new level with this post.
I doubt kids have "convictions" about it. They just need facilitation--not even encouragement. Other programs have done that. We haven't.
And it's a very effective vaccine.
@BryanMatthews there will be far too much stupidity in these comments to read, but thank you for saying the right thing about this.
Would recommend two bagging it. Lord knows where some of us have been
Wow do you not realize that over half the players on AU are not from Alabama? So why did you ask a question that has basically zero relevance?
And do you honestly believe these players aren't talking with med professionals, coaches and their parents before making their decision?
Generally speaking it's an effective vaccine. Compared to other vaccines, it's a joke. Covid is a joke compared to other viruses. You have to take a test to know you have it
