So do you have a source or were you just pulling numbers out of your ass?
According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...
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I personally know two, young individuals that had significant cardiac issues within days of the 2nd vaccine. I've had a cardiologist speculate directly to me that he thought the time length between dose 1 and dose 2 was way too brief and this could be a major factor. I just don't understand why some get so upset when these incidents are questioned.
“Two hundred seventy-nine athletes and former athletes in the United States have died from cardiac arrests after taking COVID-19 vaccines, according to data from a recent peer-reviewed study.”
Unfortunately it’s behind a pay wall. That said without specifics that none of us have we can’t be sure of individual cases like the one Monday night. Calling people names is never healthy dialogue.
I've never tried to "weasel" out of anything, and in this case, there is nothing to weasel out of. Unfortunately, you, DM8 and others take the cake when it comes to be verified weasels and out and out liars. Just look how you guys are exaggerating. You can't provide a single post where I said anything about an "evil vaccine", and the post you quoted certainly didn't contain that quote either.
I was given incorrect information by my daughter, (who doesn't really know about sports), saying a player had just dropped on the field and they were doing CPR. I turned the game back on and saw the hub-bub, and felt HORRIBLE for the kid, and immediately came to the Bunker and made a visceral, emotionally charged post, where I indeed suspected might be another case of a player just running along and dropping with a cardiac event, (as I've already said in another post). Someone then provided more information saying that he'd taken somewhat of a direct shot to the chest, (while others were saying that it wasn't really that hard of a hit).
Bottom line, none of that changes what you did instigating a petty, mis-timed piss and flame war that took focus away from someone who almost lost their life.
Damage caused by Covid is due to the vaccine, and damage caused by the vaccine is due to Covid. It's been done both ways. Be fair and balanced.
In your opinion, has there been any "damage" caused by the vaccine?
Sadly, the man was attacked, canceled, kicked off of social media, (in an Orwelian attempt to censor him and shut down the balanced and reasonable concerns he was sharing). A doctor in Hawaii even allegedly reported him to the Maryland board in an attempt to get his medical license pulled....all because Dr. Malone's highly qualified opinion didn't jibe with the weaseley doctor's view on Covid vaccines.
California supposedly have doctors sponsoring legislation to get doctors prosecuted if they spread "misinformation", (i.e. they have an different opinion). What has this world come to??? Galileo and other true difference makers would INDEED be tarred, feathered, canceled and/or killed in this crazy environment.
Sadly it's not just Dr. Malone. So many scientists, doctors and researchers had their entire careers and lives destroyed. Then, when the true science done in other countries like Israel was PROVEN to be true, (against all odds), the establishment just brushed it off and keep moving alone. How sad and risky for humanity to operate like that.
What is the definition of collusion. In your opinion, has it EVER occurred in mankind's history??? Has it ever occurred on a broad/significant scale??? I rest my case your honor.
To those pushing the Covid agenda, there will NEVER be an appropriate time to ask fair, balanced and intelligent questions. Every...,single.....,bit of speech that does not align 100% with the established agenda, is labeled misinformation, and will lead to cancellation, ruining of a career, and possibly in the future, even prosecution if the establishment has their way. It's SO super sad.
Thread drift is real, but in this thread the running argument seems particularly inappropriate.
Here's another question to consider.... why aren't any experts in international sports leagues in agreement with you?
FIFA is not aware of any increase in the number of footballers having cardiac arrests while on the pitch. World soccer’s governing body also said it has not seen any cases attributed to individuals receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.Reuters presented these claims to FIFA, which said: “FIFA is not aware of a rise in episodes of cardiac arrests as indicated in your email and no cases have been flagged in relation to individuals receiving a COVID vaccine.“Generally speaking, FIFA is in regular contact with leading research centres and experts to do research on a variety of medical topics.”
Fact Check-FIFA unaware of rise in players having cardiac arrests on football pitches and such incidents not flagged as being linked to COVID-19 vaccines
FIFA is not aware of any increase in the number of footballers having cardiac arrests while on the pitch. World soccer’s governing body also said it has not seen any cases attributed to individuals receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.www.reuters.com
Here's a more recent analysis by Cardiologist Christopher Lagos:
Some claim that the risk of vaccination in young men is a controversy that deserves debate. But it isn’t a controversy. It’s a hoax. A controversy is a point where reasonable people disagree. A hoax is just simply untrue. And it is untrue that young men are dying as a result of getting vaccinated.
Young athletes dying from vaccines? That's a hoax.
This article was originally posted in the Montreal Gazette. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before. There’s this idea out there that young men, especially athletes, have been dying after getting vaccinated. The idea has been bouncing around the internet for more than a year and seems to have...www.mcgill.ca
And that same establishment including the CDC, all of the same doctors, scientists and researchers pushing the Covid agenda told us that no one who took the vaccine would get Covid.
They said you could go out and mix, mingle and be "as close as two spoons in a drawer" if you were vaccinated, because we were guaranteed to reach herd immunity. Thank God that real world data and real science done by those who were unafraid, led to the truth coming out. But here you are still counting on suppression of any opposing data that goes against the narrative. "Show me the proof", knowing full well most will not surface anything that reflects negatively on the vaccines.
Unfortunately, it was authored by known bullshit vendor Peter McCollough.
Bottom line: you came into a thread about a young man collapsing on the field due to a blow to the chest, completely ignorant to what had unfolded, and stirred the pot about young athletes “suddenly dropping dead”. You should apologize for your ignorant mistake.
You lot pushing your blatantly false narrative (with zero evidentiary support whatsoever) will never be appropriate.
Of course. It’s a Fvcking vaccine. No vaccine has ever been without adverse effects for some people. Jesus, man.
Eventually, you guys will see a pattern. No amount of "sources" or information will be good enough. It'll always be disqualified or otherwise be dismissed. Even if SOLID evidence and proof come out, some of that crew will NEVER accept reality and truth.
So, here's the standard playbook in action.
Attack the messenger, not the message. I don't know who McCollough is, but if you're going to argue, address his information (assuming you can). Anyone can just claim the messenger is bad. You've been doing that most of this thread.
It’s almost as if there’s no good evidence for your narrative at all or something. Such a vast conspiracy.
Well when you simply declare any opposing view is dis information... RZ is not the one in the bubble here.
Then that’s your problem, not mine. He’s not a reliable source of information on this. It’s also a letter to the editor, not peer reviewed research.
When the view opposes established scientific evidence, it’s disinformation by definition.
I'm sitting here with my arms and legs almost completely numb and caused by a vaccine either flu or covid. It happened just over a year ago. I have CIDP which is chronic neurlogical disease caused by all my nerve coverings damaged. I blame no one and feel God still has a purpose for my life. I pray Damar gets better soon. This thread should be about him not vaccines. God with him and his family. Take this vaccine stuff somewhere else please. WDE
So, you are always touting what the establishment says, and leaning on that as if it makes it infallible fact. So I pointed out that despite the establishment getting together to push a narrative, it was eventually proven that they lied, did horrible science, and were DEAD wrong, yet they steadfastly refused to admit it.
Most important of all, everyone sees that you think that us "absurd and childish". Delusion reigns for you obsessed nuts.
No. My post doesn't come close to qualifying as stirring the pot. However, what YOU did certainly qualifies. You and DM8 were pathetic. I was given additional information, and I sat out the fray, but you just couldn't help yourself.
Sorry to hear about your health problems but I will continue to contradict the anti-vaxx conspiracists.
You should apologize for spreading disinformation like a hack.
I'm glad you admitted that. However, we were constantly being told that it was "100% safe and effective", and DM8 and others in your crew parroted those same statements here. Do you hear any of the doctors, scientists and researchers admitting that there COULD be a few issues??? Why is that?
I haven't provided any links. Just challenging you to address any of this. You're going after the messengers and you're labeling anything you disagree with as disinformation.
Science isn't done by decree. And authoritarianism as almost always on the wrong side of science.
Sounds like you have a problem with the media, because you clearly have no conception of what research science told us about the vaccines.
No, it’s a blueprint for understanding reality and ignoring fantasy.
Vaccines saved more lives than we will ever know. I just think it should be discussed somewhere else than a football forum.
Then it should be easy to debunk - right? You're the one claiming expertise here.
No, I’m labeling disinformation as disinformation. If you or anyone else wants to make a concrete claim, I’m happy to debunk it with the evidence.
Agreed. It would be great if we could keep people from spreading physically harmful misinformation on here.
McCollough was nationally recognized, and one of the most published cardiologists in the country. Head of either Baylor or some other cardiology department prior to Covid. However, once he came out supporting hydroxychloroquine, and didn't fall in line with the Covid narrative, he was canceled, fired and censored.
Now, he is a bit more out there than Dr. Malone, but NO ONE had any issues with his opinions, qualifications etc. before he went against the Covid narrative. Then, as soon as he did, he was ridiculed to the nth degree like all of the others.
