According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...
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Careful. Data hurts headsIt’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...www.nature.com
I’m not sure any of that data cited supports the arguments you seem to be making here though. If data suggest the vaccines cause more heart issues than COVID itself, I haven’t seen that. I would definitely take a look at it if somebody provided some.
Yep, this intubation is normal treatment for what happened to him. 24-72 hours is what is hoped for in cases like his; it becomes problematic after that but a small percentage of patients in his condition have survived after up to 96 hours.
I’m clearly not a doctor but saw 2 different doctors, both very articulate, explain this today on ESPN and CNN.
Correct. The mRNA vaccines may cause a temporary, mild case of myocarditis that typically resolves on its own without medical intervention. The virus causes more severe myocarditis that is more likely to put and keep you in the hospital.It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...www.nature.com
That’s the distinction the COVID bug chasers don’t like to make.
Appreciate it. This is all many want to see, actual information to help form opinions as opposed to “seems like”.It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...www.nature.com
What "spectacularly ignorant narrative" was pushed??? Did you or did you not play a HUGE role in keeping the controversial debate going??? I'm always using introspection to consider that I might be wrong, but it doesn't appear that you eat your own dog food.
Also, what do you think this is? A 5th grade popularity contest? The fact that you have to rely on popular confirmation rather than being able to provide solid rationale, logic and facts to support your position, speaks volume. In addition, you don't seem to be able to grasp other important considerations such as the fact that there are there more people in the bulk of the bell curve, than the leading edge. Therefore, popularity frequently doesn't indicate rightness, accuracy or truth.
Apparently, Dr Clay Travis is a modern day Galileo.
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Are you a student of history, and if so, why didn't you recognize that popularity among the masses rarely indicates truth when it comes to novel, cutting edge truths? You don't seem to realize that most true leading edge difference makers were laughed to scorn, ridiculed and attacked throughout all of history. Thank God that folks like Galileo, Copernicus and all of the other true leading edge difference making scientists didn't give up and kept trying to break things down for the bulk of the bell curve, (despite suffering attacks and dying in prison for the TRUTH that they were able to grasp and advocate for). Wide is the road that leads to destruction and general error, but narrow is the path that leads to truth.
If you were remotely as smart as you think you are, and even a tad objective, you'd realize that even peons such as myself should have their opinions considered if they happen to offer solid points, logic and rationale. Do better, strive to be more objective and realize that myopia and bias are killers.
In the thread about a young man collapsing into cardiac arrest, you suggested that there an inordinate amount of “prime, conditioned athletes” who are “dropping dead” (which you failed to substantiate at all). Are you going to try and tell us that you weren’t suggesting this was caused by vaccines?
Lol @ invoking the bell curve. You’re so out of your depth, it’s tragic.
My FIL is a coroner in a pretty large county. He hasn’t had a single person die of any vaccine, Covid or any other vaccine we take. This is a non political post or conspiracy post.
Yeah, but do you know who DR MALONE IS??!
The main thrust of my post was indeed substantiated...., and that was that I was concerned for the young man and fervently praying for him.
Also, as for the rest, if you understood my two posts, thanks for admitting that your "popularity" appeal was invalid, and you essentially have nothing to refute what was offered. Let's let it go and keep it moving before you ride this thread off into the abyss too.
That’s great. You ought to leave it at that in the future.
Oh, so you weren’t suggesting that the vaccines had anything to do with it, then? Before we let it go, let’s be honest about what happened.
The severe myocarditis also 100x more common from covid itself than from the vaccine.
The "just asking questions" crowd never seem to address that. Nor the fact that billions of vaccine doses administered without statistically significant negative outcomes.
So either there's a concerted coverup by medical professionals around the world of historic proportions, or the anti-vaxx crowd has no leg to stand on.
And since it’s very hard to reconcile that you might have been duped, they’ll always believe it’s a vast conspiracy. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
You saw a man being given CPR on a football field. Your immediate response was to show your ass and rehash the same batshit conspiracy theories that you have been addicted to for years.
Now, you want to cry after getting mocked? Poor baby.
I finally got around to watching a video of that guy and you can tell he’s a quack from the way he talks and his mannerisms.
Sucks that antivax propagandists couldn’t help themselves.
I always love the “my main focus…” retort after being called out for something he tried to sneak in without having to support.
You just couldn’t let it go- sure it was “ill-timed” if relevant or not.
You, Stump, and DM8 were just laying into him non stop.
It all became less about the reality of a football players injury and more of an e-fight between a bunch of children
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El oh el, thou certainly are easily rustled at the mention of the experimental mitigation jab. You seem heavily invested and that’s cool. After all, Andy Burcham and Auburn Network are still declaring the clot-shot is “safe, free and effective.”
No, I didn't see the play, nor the CPR at all. I'd turned the game off, so you and the twit crew are wrong yet again. It's quite CLEAR that I played no role in the roiling mess that occurred. I refrained and sat it out. Your two deranged, highly hot and bothered, dimwitted buddies should have done the same. Just go back and look at the thread over on PoReMu and count the number of posts they made directly stoking the fire and lighting into the guy they were attacking and arguing with.
In addition, you know well that I've never pushed anything remotely close to a "batsnap conspiracy theory", but all you guys have is dishonesty, deflection and complete lack of character. It's rather sad, (but I guess your master leader Stump trained you all well).
Just imagine how smooth brained these two and their ilk must be to see a player's heard stop after taking a hard hit to the chest and immediately start screaming the vaccine must have been cause.
It's well established that truth matters not one whit with you, so I'm not surprised that you would out and out lie, but just keep on and I'll start pulling up some of the documented idiocy where you were eventually proven to be DEAD WRONG multiple times, "Hey Honey, I found something on the "internets" that all the top doctors and scientists missed", (LOL!!!).
Talking about putting one's foot all up in their mouth. Boy did those posts come back to make you look stupid.
Ahh… so you didn’t even see what transpired but still chimed in during the immediate aftermath to blindly spew vaccine batshit. Perfect.
That’s even more embarrassing than I originally thought. My sincere apologies for overestimating you. I should have known better.
Your apparent lack of any reading comprehension is not my problem, but yes, I heard about a tragic incident, and I immediately opined with a visceral, emotional post and begin intensely lifting the young man in trouble, up in prayer, (while thinking about all of the others reported to have experienced cardiac events on the pitch, court and field of play of late).
Someone actually watching the game later commented that he'd taken a shot to the chest, so that new information likely explained this particular incident. You're lying that I mentioned the word "vaccine" or implying that I did anything incendiary to ignite a silly pissing match with your crew. Talk to your broe-thers that actually poured the gas and jacked the convo off the tracks and over the cliff.
Go to sleep homie, and stop silly slap-fighting. Why is it always on me to take the high road to stop y'alls crapping?
