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According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...

So, here's the standard playbook in action.

Attack the messenger, not the message. I don't know who McCollough is
Then that’s your problem, not mine. He’s not a reliable source of information on this. It’s also a letter to the editor, not peer reviewed research.
 
Well when you simply declare any opposing view is dis information... RZ is not the one in the bubble here.
When the view opposes established scientific evidence, it’s disinformation by definition.
 
Of course. It’s a Fvcking vaccine. No vaccine has ever been without adverse effects for some people. Jesus, man.
I'm sitting here with my arms and legs almost completely numb and caused by a vaccine either flu or covid. It happened just over a year ago. I have CIDP which is chronic neurlogical disease caused by all my nerve coverings damaged. I blame no one and feel God still has a purpose for my life. I pray Damar gets better soon. This thread should be about him not vaccines. God with him and his family. Take this vaccine stuff somewhere else please. WDE
 
What an absurd and childish argument.

So, you are always touting what the establishment says, and leaning on that as if it makes it infallible fact. So I pointed out that despite the establishment getting together to push a narrative, it was eventually proven that they lied, did horrible science, and were DEAD wrong, yet they steadfastly refused to admit it.

Most important of all, everyone sees that you think that us "absurd and childish". Delusion reigns for you obsessed nuts.
 
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Bottom line: you came into a thread about a young man collapsing on the field due to a blow to the chest, completely ignorant to what had unfolded, and stirred the pot about young athletes “suddenly dropping dead”. You should apologize for your ignorant mistake.

No. My post doesn't come close to qualifying as stirring the pot. However, what YOU did certainly qualifies. You and DM8 were pathetic. I was given additional information, and I sat out the fray, but you just couldn't help yourself.
 
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I'm sitting here with my arms and legs almost completely numb and caused by a vaccine either flu or covid. It happened just over a year ago. I have CIDP which is chronic neurlogical disease caused by all my nerve coverings damaged. I blame no one and feel God still has a purpose for my life. I pray Damar gets better soon. This thread should be about him not vaccines. God with him and his family. Take this vaccine stuff somewhere else please. WDE
Sorry to hear about your health problems but I will continue to contradict the anti-vaxx conspiracists.
 
No. My post doesn't come close to qualifying as stirring the pot. However, what YOU did certainly qualifies. You and DM8 were pathetic. I was given additional information, and I sat out the fray, but you just couldn't help yourself.
You should apologize for spreading disinformation like a hack.
 
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Of course. It’s a Fvcking vaccine. No vaccine has ever been without adverse effects for some people. Jesus, man.

I'm glad you admitted that. However, we were constantly being told that it was "100% safe and effective", and DM8 and others in your crew parroted those same statements here. Do you hear any of the doctors, scientists and researchers admitting that there COULD be a few issues??? Why is that?
 
I'm glad you admitted that. However, we were constantly being told that it was "100% safe and effective", and DM8 and others in your crew parroted those same statements here. Do you hear any of the doctors, scientists and researchers admitting that there COULD be a few issues??? Why is that?
You took 100% literally. I see 100% as 99.9999%.
 
Debunk what? The link you provided was a pay-walled letter to the editor.
I haven't provided any links. Just challenging you to address any of this. You're going after the messengers and you're labeling anything you disagree with as disinformation.

Science isn't done by decree. And authoritarianism as almost always on the wrong side of science.
 
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I'm glad you admitted that. However, we were constantly being told that it was "100% safe and effective", and DM8 and others in your crew parroted those same statements here. Do you hear any of the doctors, scientists and researchers admitting that there COULD be a few issues??? Why is that?
Sounds like you have a problem with the media, because you clearly have no conception of what research science told us about the vaccines.

^^^ this is a blueprint to never learn anything.
No, it’s a blueprint for understanding reality and ignoring fantasy.
 
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Then that’s your problem, not mine. He’s not a reliable source of information on this. It’s also a letter to the editor, not peer reviewed research.
Then it should be easy to debunk - right? You're the one claiming expertise here.
 
I haven't provided any links. Just challenging you to address any of this. You're going after the messengers and you're labeling anything you disagree with as disinformation.
No, I’m labeling disinformation as disinformation. If you or anyone else wants to make a concrete claim, I’m happy to debunk it with the evidence.
 
Vaccines saved more lives than we will ever know. I just think it should be discussed somewhere else than a football forum.
Agreed. It would be great if we could keep people from spreading physically harmful misinformation on here.
 
So, here's the standard playbook in action.

Attack the messenger, not the message. I don't know who McCollough is, but if you're going to argue, address his information (assuming you can). Anyone can just claim the messenger is bad. You've been doing that most of this thread.

McCollough was nationally recognized, and one of the most published cardiologists in the country. Head of either Baylor or some other cardiology department prior to Covid. However, once he came out supporting hydroxychloroquine, and didn't fall in line with the Covid narrative, he was canceled, fired and censored.

Now, he is a bit more out there than Dr. Malone, but NO ONE had any issues with his opinions, qualifications etc. before he went against the Covid narrative. Then, as soon as he did, he was ridiculed to the nth degree like all of the others.
 
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When the view opposes established scientific evidence, it’s disinformation by definition.

No. Not when the "established scientific evidence" is doctored, spun and baked as was the case with Covid. It's been PROVEN now, yet you are still spouting untruths. I could easily go back and get posts where Stump, DM8, and later you, were hanging your every hat on baked and spun, dishonest studies, then some of us pointed out that they were likely baked, THEN real science done in Israel and other countries showed different results that were in line with what some of us had predicted.

At the end of the day, the truth came out and even the lying CDC, WHO, Dr. Fauci and all, had to back-track and repeal what they'd said with the bad science and faked studies. It was SO good to see the truth eek and squeeze it's way out against all odds.
 
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No. Not when the "established scientific evidence" is doctored, spun and baked as was the case with Covid
Provide evidence of this.

You live in fantasyland. I do feel sorry for you, but my patience is thinning.
 
What about Keyontae Johnson from UF who collapsed on the court from heart failure during the FSU game in late 2020 before the vaccine rollout? Or Christian Eriksen, an unvaccinated soccer player who suffered cardiac arrest during a EURO Match in 2021? Literally two off the top of my head who were unvaccinated at the time of their individual events.

Jack Draper, 19 year old tennis phenom collapsed from heart issues on the tennis court one month after a long bout with covid.

Put down the Truth Social app for a while, or just delete it all together.
I know I’m responding to a dated post by bunker standards but COVID fvks with your heart. I thought I was going into cardiac arrest when I had delta and it was terrifying. At least I know I will go out like a bitch when my time comes 😂
 
What was?

A peer reviewed study. It's ITT:

“Two hundred seventy-nine athletes and former athletes in the United States have died from cardiac arrests after taking COVID-19 vaccines, according to data from a recent peer-reviewed study.”

Unfortunately it’s behind a pay wall. That said without specifics that none of us have we can’t be sure of individual cases like the one Monday night. Calling people names is never healthy dialogue.

And it's not hard to find Malone's stuff out there - but you know that.

I'm not wasting any more time on this. Believe what you want. I only jumped in because you were using a known evasive playbook. You shoot down the messenger, you call people names, and you don't address the counter point.

It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
 
A peer reviewed study. It's ITT:


And it's not hard to find Malone's stuff out there - but you know that.

I'm not wasting any more time on this. Believe what you want. I only jumped in because you were using a known evasive playbook. You shoot down the messenger, you call people names, and you don't address the counter point.

It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
Oh, this is incredibly easy. This claim: “Two hundred seventy-nine athletes and former athletes in the United States have died from cardiac arrests after taking COVID-19 vaccines, according to data from a recent peer-reviewed study" is a quote from an Epoch Times article (link to article) which refers to this:


That's a letter to the editor, not a peer-reviewed study. If you want to take another shot, by all means, I'm happy to demonstrate why it's wrong.
 
What is my narrative? I’m just asking why is out of line to ask questions? I’m not wasting my time with your ignorance.
The one that there is a sudden, disproportionate rise in young athletes dying which may or may not be (subtext: totally is) linked to the vaccines.
 
Provide evidence of this.

You live in fantasyland. I do feel sorry for you, but my patience is thinning.

Have you forgotten so soon? It's all documented in the Covid threads on PoReMu. What the CDC, Dr. Fauci and rest of the leading agencies and Covid narrative said..., how the baked and spun bad science "studies" contributed to support the deceptive narrative, then what the true science proved when it contradicted the narrative and baked studies. All real science was initially dismissed as "misinformation", but eventually over time, it was PROVEN to be true.

Then, best of all, when the truth finally popped out and could no longer be denied, even the CDC had to backtrack. Many publications redacted, and edited their misinformation that had spouted the Covid narrative's lies for many months to over a year. If you aren't aware of this, you shouldn't have a word to say in these thread.

It's super embarrassing for you all. You were left with a TREMENDOUS amount of egg on your faces, (yet you are still hard-soldiering on with your delusive efforts).
 
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