Also, whose opinion on the medical impacts of the new vaccines do you feel are more qualified? Yours, or those of subject matter experts such as Dr. Peter McCullough's or Dr. Malone's???
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According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...
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Also, whose opinion on the medical impacts of the new vaccines do you feel are more qualified? Yours, or those of subject matter experts such as Dr. Peter McCullough's or Dr. Malone's???
It was retracted in May of 2022, so no, but really good attempt here. Here's some more information on why it was retracted:
The focus of the paper is on a critically important public health issue. As such, it is essential that the presentation be accurate and balanced. Additional external review of this paper following publication concluded that it demonstrates inappropriate bias in multiple ways.
The use of key terminology, specifically the key terms “inoculation” and “vaccination” diverges from common use and are incorrect, indicating clear evidence of bias.
Publicly available data from the United States Center for Disease Control (U.S. CDC) were concluded by the external reviewers to be misinterpreted to make the erroneous conclusion that the vast majority of reported deaths due to COVID-19 are actually due to other comorbidities. Such an egregious misinterpretation and misrepresentation are unacceptable.
Want to stop bullshitting now? Of course not.
This is, quite literally, the definition of confirmation bias.
You probably didn't notice, but I replied to your different points separately. Isn't that what a debate and/or intelligent discourse SHOULD be??? Someone being respectful enough, and considerate enough to respond to each key point? Can you have mature, productive discourse otherwise???
Look folks. He's now on their routine of saying that they "won't read the posts", or "didn't read it" etc., (LOL!). That is the clearest sign that the person you are debating with has NOTHING, and is throwing a surrender cobra in words. You want to debate, but will not, or can not respond to each point with a solid counter argument. I rest my case your honor.
What happened to giving us some "context" about the bioterrorism claim? No comments yet on Baylor's restraining order (although you still cite his credentials there), I see.
Normal folks were concerned enough to hope/pray that Damar Hamiln would keep fighting and survive. You, on the other hand, saw an opportunity to continue spreading your batshit about the covid vaccine. You didn't even witness what transpired... just dove right into the deep end of lunatic shitposting.
Again, it's sick.
If you go through those links, I believe you'll clearly find some "verifiable examples", so your point is moot. Please share the ones that you feel are solid. I'd like to know your opinion on them.
Also, that was only one minor point among several that established what I truly believe to be an important, and truthful overall and general key point. Please don't get caught up in the minutia and end up missing the forest for the trees.
I debate peers who I respect. You meet neither qualification. Remember that football you keep trying to spike?
You exist solely for the purposes of mockery and derision for spreading trash that could harm Auburn people and God knows who else around the bowels of the internet. Let's be clear.
The intellectual laziness to shotgun blast a bunch of links and expect people to dig through them to verify a claim YOU made is something else. And the gall to follow it up with, "so your point is moot"... good lowered.
Don't pretend you care about research unless you believe it verifies your opinion
I asked about one minor point. If you don’t like those minor points, stop trying to sneak them in your diatribes. It’s a chickenshit excuse and a childish way to avoid addressing your accusations.
So Dr. McCullough made his critique/comments of the study much earlier, (and was roundly attacked for them, correct?). Now, significantly later in May of this past year, the study was indeed retracted, meaning that it indeed had issues.
All of this seems to line up with what I've told you all MANY times throughout the pandemic debates. Someone makes a good point about deficits in a "peer reviewed study". The supporters rake them and challenge them to provide a peer reviewed study themselves that debunks the study that is pro-vaxx, full well knowing that all such studies are likely to be suppressed and/or don't exist at all, because most scientists, doctors and researchers were REFUSING to participate and review anything that went against the narrative, so they would not lose their careers and means of feeding their families.
That's rank dishonesty all the way around, but again, it only supports what I've said. If you go back and look at the debates, you'll find multiple instances where even peons such as myself, CLEARLY pointed out valid deficits in some of the baked "studies" presented by the pro-vaxx crowd, and it was automatically dismissed, but later, the article or study was quietly redacted, retracted or edited after the TRUTH could no longer be repressed.
No, it doesn't. It lines up with the fact that the people you have relied upon for information are, in fact, not reliable sources of information (as decided by their professional peers). You don't get to use McCullough's referenced paper being retracted as evidence that we can't trust any peer-reviewed research, though it's plainly clear why you'd love to do that.
You are out and out lying. Everyone is free to go over to PoReMu and see my innocuous post, AND the fact that I sat out the entire silly debate and respected the fact that the attention should have been on the young man.
I should have gotten more context and facts prior to rushing out and making a visceral, emotional post based on what my daughter, (who doesn't even follow football, but knows her father would be interested), told me. I did indeed make an ASSumption that he was just out there running along, and dropped, because that's what she told me. I will issue a mea culpa and say that I was wrong assuming that my daughter's information was accurate, without checking, but excuse me for wanting to rush out and discuss this with my Bunker fam. I turned on the T.V., saw them huddled up, and I believe heard an announcer say that "he just dropped", but again, it turned out that the moderate blow to the chest very well may have played the key role. Let's just hope he makes a full recovery, and that they find and report the true root cause.
That said, I clearly stayed out of the stupid fray, and didn't counter any of the stupidity Lil'man and Dumbo-octo were spewing.
I’m enjoying watching @au4life_rz get absolutely abused but I’m amazed anybody reads his posts at this point. Paragraphs and paragraphs of nothing. Lol
Well there's the pious, sanctimonious pseudo-apology we've been asking for. Good for you for finally owning up to it, sort of.
My man, I didn't make a claim. I clearly qualified my statement and said, "I believe". I assure you, that you, and the other few in your merry band, would indeed have feel better about the veracity of the links if THEY research them, themselves.
In the past, I've spent hundreds of hours all told, verifying, vouching, and presenting information, only to have folks not respond, say "I didn't read that crap" etc. At this point with all of the years I've interacted with this crew, I know WELL that how your gang reacts when they are presented with solid points that debunk something you all believe. Given that consistent deplorable and intellectually dishonest behavior, you do NOT have grounds to blame me for not wasting my time.
And if he were "just out there running along..." that would have given you better justification to start in immediately with the vaccine batshittery?
Thank you for making my point for me.
Had you on ignore and didn't realize you were responding.
Still attacking messenger, not message. Still can't discuss without insults. Got it. Back on ignore - bye.
I routinely factor in information, research and opinions from all angles, sources and directions, before I arrive at my opinion, (or, my current best understanding as I like to say).
No honest person familiar with my posting over the past 23 years, can say that I don't put forth great effort to be objective, balanced and fair, prior to arriving at a conclusion. My entire mantra is trying to get folks to be objective, fair and balanced.
More importantly, are you satisfied with my response/answer? Did the links I provided satisfy your curiosity sufficiently?
I don't have to listen to him talk in circles and throw around insults.
McCullough once testified before a senate committee that covid cannot be spread by a person who isn't showing symptoms.
LOL! Name a few of the people I've "relied on" over the past few years of these Covid debate??? Dis ought'a be guid (sic).
Goodness gracious, you're going to have me quoting Gunna again. This might be one that shuts you down completely so that you won't even respond.
Simple question for you. Do you read my posts???
Yep... nothing substantive here.
I don't recall ever interacting with you... but as you wish. Farewell, cuck.
So, in other words, you have NOTHING. You couldn't respond and counter what I said, correct? When that happens in debate, what should an honest man do, (and I'm going to try and leave you alone after this, because though YOU ALL are continuing to pick at me, if I respond in kind, I might end up making you hate me).
It's always interesting when guys pick and bully, then they get hit back so hard, they want to cry and hate the person they were picking on.
I did NOT mention the vaccine outright. My post was respectful and only contained an erstwhile allusion that people ALL OVER THE WORLD considered, due to actual events that have occurred/data.
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What about me? I don't think I insulted you, but you still haven't responded to my post that clearly demonstrated why the referenced statistic (that you insisted I debunk) was unreliable.
No one should follow the advice of any doctor on tv. Go to your doctor. Do not get your information from the internet. If you get your medical information from someone on TV you're a pawn in their game, they don't know you, they want to be able to tell you what is best for you without ever seeing you. That's not what a doctor should be doing.
Awww... are you being picked on for shitposting about vaccines while a man was fighting for his life on national television?
So sad.
Your personal Dr doesn’t know more than the cdc in real time. Viruses change. Vaccines become less effective. Etc.
Seriously. Does @00aubie ever post anything substantial in debates??? Most of the time, he doesn't opine, but only comes in with the most vitriolic, debased name calling and personal attacks. It really makes it hard to conduct intelligent discourse and try to learn and grow.
Is what I just said true?
I've already explained why, when asked by someone to substantiate a claim you made, your posting of a handful of links and suggesting the answer is somewhere in them is a hilarious display of intellectual laziness. I'm more inclined to call it intellectual cowardice now that you're hiding behind the phrase, "I believe", so you don't have to actually commit to the claim you were trying to make.
To be fair, you are impossible to discuss this with. You'll post a whole page worth of text that says nothing at all, just a big ole word salad that you expect people to read when in reality no one on here has any reason to care about your medical advice or where you get your medical advice. If you think the vaccine is bad, great, don't get it. If you think people should take medical advice from you then you're 100% wrong.
You heard about a man's life hanging in the balance and immediately rushed to the internet to spew the conspiracy bullshit that consumes you. You are so desperate to prove that you haven't wasted two years of your life disseminating lunacy, that you couldn't even be bothered to view what took place with your own eyes. You needed this. This was your big break.
Respectful... lol.
