Agreed. People certainly shouldn’t jump to conclusions and turn a tragic incident into a vaccines are the devil political troll, like many have chosen to do. Hopefully they are able to learn, and do better.
According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...
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If I ever as much as post a dot over an "i" that isn't a perfectly round circle, you'll sprain a finger responding to let me know, so I'm fairly confident that if I'm even remotely close to being wrong, you'll certainly let me know your opinion that it's incorrect.
So, how many times has that worked out for you???
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Last night, it was actually two folks on the pro-vaccine "side" that kept running around frantically pouring gas on the "debate" and keeping the piss match going, (but mysteriously, many gave them a pass and only attacked those on the other "side" of the debate). There wasn't a lot of consistency.
It’s really this simple. Just saying “it’s happening more” based off what you see on social media doesn’t cut it. Should be plenty of data given the way some talk about it.
Let me help him: “Do your own research.”
I assume that will constitute the main portion of his proof and stats.
Edit: I was right. “Just search #diedsuddenly.” Hmm, I wonder who will be sharing things with that hashtag and I further wonder what their agenda might be.
Anyone using that event to push their agenda is an absolute shitbag.
True. You cannot just go by what you see on the "internets", for either side of the debate. However, we clearly saw for two years how truth and honest data was suppressed, and it took scientists putting their entire careers and reputations on the line to promote objectivity and produce honest studies and unaltered, honest data.
In fact, most of the studies that went against the Covid narrative were done in other countries, and those results were roundly attacked, debunked and labeled as "misinformation"......, that is, until somehow enough truth finally forced its way out, and the establishment had no choice but to backtrack and acknowledge that they were wrong. Therefore, we CANNOT depend on the establishment to be honest and provide "plenty of data" that proves they were lying. It's more likely that they will continue to hide data, equivocate and be dishonest, right?
Even then with a preponderance of evidence contrary to the established narrative, many doctors, scientists and researchers STILL spun wildly, redacted what they'd said, and otherwise refused to admit that they were wrong and had routinely supported false narratives. It was a sad episode in human history, and I hope that we all learn from it and do better.
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Anyone is able to go to PoReMu and look at that thread and see which two posted the most, and exactly what they were saying to keep it all going off track. Please just let it go and don't rize up this thread too. You are a hater of truth, and I hope somehow that will change.
Yep, anyone can go in there and see you transparently push your spectacularly ignorant narrative and get called out on it. Then they’ll see the 15+ likes on my post that called you out. One would think that might provoke a little introspection.
Not you, though.
Hey now, we don't know that he's an idiot. He could be of average intelligence and just not care. You know, an asshole.
We're not the most ignorant. It's just that we're no smarter. Our species is filled with thick skulls.
I hear ya. Sketchy stuff with vaccines no doubt. But, feel like you can go in circles with this logic and make any point you could ever want and say the data is hidden and my side of right.
Have to at least provide some kind of data for an argument beyond "seems like it’s happening more"
So reported today that his pulse was regained on the field (following protocol of treating in place before moving). And before hospital transport he regained consciousness (per his friend/agent).
Not sure if he was them intubated before or after arriving at hospital. And hypothermia treatment (typically for 24 hours after cardiac arrest).
His uncle is now reporting he has gone from 100% oxygen to 50% tonight. So some indication his breathing is improving. Still lung damage though.
If he is intubated > 72 hours, then concern for recovery.
Additional testing will be done to rule out any other contributing health conditions.
The post-cardiac arrest syndrome: A case for lung–brain coupling and opportunities for neuroprotection
Systemic inflammation and multi-organ failure represent hallmarks of the post-cardiac arrest syndrome (PCAS) and predict severe neurological injury and often fatal outcomes. Current interventions for cardiac arrest focus on the reversal of precipitating ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I know videos explaining this have came up on here. This goes in to great detail of what happened, but also what typically happens after the patient has pulse and possible scenarios of treatment after.
It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...
www.nature.com
Careful. Data hurts headsIt’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...
I’m not sure any of that data cited supports the arguments you seem to be making here though. If data suggest the vaccines cause more heart issues than COVID itself, I haven’t seen that. I would definitely take a look at it if somebody provided some.
Yep, this intubation is normal treatment for what happened to him. 24-72 hours is what is hoped for in cases like his; it becomes problematic after that but a small percentage of patients in his condition have survived after up to 96 hours.
I’m clearly not a doctor but saw 2 different doctors, both very articulate, explain this today on ESPN and CNN.
Correct. The mRNA vaccines may cause a temporary, mild case of myocarditis that typically resolves on its own without medical intervention. The virus causes more severe myocarditis that is more likely to put and keep you in the hospital.It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...
That’s the distinction the COVID bug chasers don’t like to make.
Appreciate it. This is all many want to see, actual information to help form opinions as opposed to “seems like”.It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…
Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports
Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...
What "spectacularly ignorant narrative" was pushed??? Did you or did you not play a HUGE role in keeping the controversial debate going??? I'm always using introspection to consider that I might be wrong, but it doesn't appear that you eat your own dog food.
Also, what do you think this is? A 5th grade popularity contest? The fact that you have to rely on popular confirmation rather than being able to provide solid rationale, logic and facts to support your position, speaks volume. In addition, you don't seem to be able to grasp other important considerations such as the fact that there are there more people in the bulk of the bell curve, than the leading edge. Therefore, popularity frequently doesn't indicate rightness, accuracy or truth.
Apparently, Dr Clay Travis is a modern day Galileo.
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Are you a student of history, and if so, why didn't you recognize that popularity among the masses rarely indicates truth when it comes to novel, cutting edge truths? You don't seem to realize that most true leading edge difference makers were laughed to scorn, ridiculed and attacked throughout all of history. Thank God that folks like Galileo, Copernicus and all of the other true leading edge difference making scientists didn't give up and kept trying to break things down for the bulk of the bell curve, (despite suffering attacks and dying in prison for the TRUTH that they were able to grasp and advocate for). Wide is the road that leads to destruction and general error, but narrow is the path that leads to truth.
If you were remotely as smart as you think you are, and even a tad objective, you'd realize that even peons such as myself should have their opinions considered if they happen to offer solid points, logic and rationale. Do better, strive to be more objective and realize that myopia and bias are killers.
In the thread about a young man collapsing into cardiac arrest, you suggested that there an inordinate amount of “prime, conditioned athletes” who are “dropping dead” (which you failed to substantiate at all). Are you going to try and tell us that you weren’t suggesting this was caused by vaccines?
Lol @ invoking the bell curve. You’re so out of your depth, it’s tragic.
My FIL is a coroner in a pretty large county. He hasn’t had a single person die of any vaccine, Covid or any other vaccine we take. This is a non political post or conspiracy post.
Yeah, but do you know who DR MALONE IS??!
The main thrust of my post was indeed substantiated...., and that was that I was concerned for the young man and fervently praying for him.
Also, as for the rest, if you understood my two posts, thanks for admitting that your "popularity" appeal was invalid, and you essentially have nothing to refute what was offered. Let's let it go and keep it moving before you ride this thread off into the abyss too.
That’s great. You ought to leave it at that in the future.
Oh, so you weren’t suggesting that the vaccines had anything to do with it, then? Before we let it go, let’s be honest about what happened.
The severe myocarditis also 100x more common from covid itself than from the vaccine.
The "just asking questions" crowd never seem to address that. Nor the fact that billions of vaccine doses administered without statistically significant negative outcomes.
So either there's a concerted coverup by medical professionals around the world of historic proportions, or the anti-vaxx crowd has no leg to stand on.
And since it’s very hard to reconcile that you might have been duped, they’ll always believe it’s a vast conspiracy. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
You saw a man being given CPR on a football field. Your immediate response was to show your ass and rehash the same batshit conspiracy theories that you have been addicted to for years.
Now, you want to cry after getting mocked? Poor baby.
I finally got around to watching a video of that guy and you can tell he’s a quack from the way he talks and his mannerisms.
