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According to ESPN, he took a shoulder to the chest and went into cardiac arrest...

Rare phenomenon. Athletes dying of heart issues suddenly is not so rare anymore. It’s strangely more common in the past 2 years than ever before. Could be coincidental. But I doubt it.

Honestly I just pray this guy gets better.
Where do you get your statistics on the athletes who die from heart issues that are unexplained except for vaccines? Post some studies and sources or leave politics out of this tragic occurrence. Please.
 
I honestly have zero information regarding such things so real questions here-

Is there data that shows it's not so rare anymore, or just going off of stories you've heard?
This is what I want to know. I’ve seen this shite on social media platforms, the web, from John Stockton and even one of my employees. Yet no one has provided a source or even a list of possible linked cases.

You can’t just pull shite out of your azz, can you?
 
hence the CPR. Although it doesn't say so explicitly, it sounds like they stabilized him before getting in the ambulance. Sedated and in critical condition.

Hopefully with the proximity of help, he wasn't in arrest for long.
I wonder if he was wearing the style of shoulder pads that lace up the center of the chest or the ones that came out more recently that have the more rigid breastplate and buckle on the sides. There is a ton of give in the mid chest with the split style but I know some players still prefer them for fit and mobility.
 
Where do you get your statistics on the athletes who die from heart issues that are unexplained except for vaccines? Post some studies and sources or leave politics out of this tragic occurrence. Please.
it’s interesting that you call this “politics”.

Just search #diedsuddenly. It’s tragic what’s happened here and is happening way too often. You call it politics. I call it effed up
 
Saw it happen in youth baseball as well....in the 1950's. 12 and under baseball. Kid got hit in the chest, dropped to the ground and passed away where he fell. Witnessing that at 11 years of age almost made me give up the game. I didn't but I was intimidated in the batter's box for at least the next 2-3 years. Took some time for me and the others who saw it to get over it. Last night brought back a lot of those old feelings and emotion.

Still shook this morning.

How long before that had he received the Covid vaccine?
 
What about Keyontae Johnson from UF who collapsed on the court from heart failure during the FSU game in late 2020 before the vaccine rollout? Or Christian Eriksen, an unvaccinated soccer player who suffered cardiac arrest during a EURO Match in 2021? Literally two off the top of my head who were unvaccinated at the time of their individual events.

Jack Draper, 19 year old tennis phenom collapsed from heart issues on the tennis court one month after a long bout with covid.

Put down the Truth Social app for a while, or just delete it all together.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe anyone would argue that no athletes have EVER dropped dead while participating in a sport, practice or conditioning etc., so just randomly mentioning a few athletes that have had cardiac episodes doesn't say much at all.

It only matters if there is a statistical anomaly showing that a higher than normal number of athletes are being impacted around the world. If there is indeed a statistical anomaly showing a higher rate of incidents, then we DEFINITELY need to take an objective look into it, and be honest in reporting the findings.

No one should JUMP to conclusions, but we definitely know why certain things are suspected as potential root causes, and also why SO many around the world completely distrust the establishment to report the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, when it comes to the COVID agenda and vaccines etc. Let's just hope that we learn, do better, and get to the bottom of this thing so that we save as many lives as possible in the biggest picture scenario.
 
I could be wrong, but I don't believe anyone would argue that no athletes have EVER dropped dead while participating in a sport, practice or conditioning etc., so just randomly mentioning a few athletes that have had cardiac episodes doesn't say much at all.

It only matters if there is a statistical anomaly showing that a higher than normal number of athletes are being impacted around the world. If there is indeed a statistical anomaly showing a higher rate of incidents, then we DEFINITELY need to take an objective look into it, and be honest in reporting the findings.

No one should JUMP to conclusions, but we definitely know why certain things are suspected as potential root causes, and also why SO many around the world completely distrust the establishment to report the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, when it comes to the COVID agenda and vaccines etc. Let's just hope that we learn, do better, and get to the bottom of this thing so that we save as many lives as possible in the biggest picture scenario.
Agreed. People certainly shouldn’t jump to conclusions and turn a tragic incident into a vaccines are the devil political troll, like many have chosen to do. Hopefully they are able to learn, and do better.
 
Good chance.

If I ever as much as post a dot over an "i" that isn't a perfectly round circle, you'll sprain a finger responding to let me know, so I'm fairly confident that if I'm even remotely close to being wrong, you'll certainly let me know your opinion that it's incorrect.

So, how many times has that worked out for you??? ;) #LecTronicsBouncingEvery'where #rentFree
 
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Agreed. People certainly shouldn’t jump to conclusions and turn a tragic incident into a vaccines are the devil political troll, like many have chosen to do. Hopefully they are able to learn, and do better.

Last night, it was actually two folks on the pro-vaccine "side" that kept running around frantically pouring gas on the "debate" and keeping the piss match going, (but mysteriously, many gave them a pass and only attacked those on the other "side" of the debate). There wasn't a lot of consistency.
 
It only matters if there is a statistical anomaly showing that a higher than normal number of athletes are being impacted around the world. If there is indeed a statistical anomaly showing a higher rate of incidents, then we DEFINITELY need to take an objective look into it, and be honest in reporting the findings.
It’s really this simple. Just saying “it’s happening more” based off what you see on social media doesn’t cut it. Should be plenty of data given the way some talk about it.
 
Where do you get your statistics on the athletes who die from heart issues that are unexplained except for vaccines? Post some studies and sources or leave politics out of this tragic occurrence. Please.

Let me help him: “Do your own research.”

I assume that will constitute the main portion of his proof and stats.

Edit: I was right. “Just search #diedsuddenly.” Hmm, I wonder who will be sharing things with that hashtag and I further wonder what their agenda might be.
 
Last night, it was actually two folks on the pro-vaccine "side" that kept running around frantically pouring gas on the "debate" and keeping the piss match going, (but mysteriously, many gave them a pass and only attacked those on the other "side" of the debate). There wasn't a lot of consistency.
There you go lying again.
 
Last night, it was actually two folks on the pro-vaccine "side" that kept running around frantically pouring gas on the "debate" and keeping the piss match going, (but mysteriously, many gave them a pass and only attacked those on the other "side" of the debate). There wasn't a lot of consistency.
Anyone using that event to push their agenda is an absolute shitbag.
 
It’s really this simple. Just saying “it’s happening more” based off what you see on social media doesn’t cut it. Should be plenty of data given the way some talk about it.

True. You cannot just go by what you see on the "internets", for either side of the debate. However, we clearly saw for two years how truth and honest data was suppressed, and it took scientists putting their entire careers and reputations on the line to promote objectivity and produce honest studies and unaltered, honest data.

In fact, most of the studies that went against the Covid narrative were done in other countries, and those results were roundly attacked, debunked and labeled as "misinformation"......, that is, until somehow enough truth finally forced its way out, and the establishment had no choice but to backtrack and acknowledge that they were wrong. Therefore, we CANNOT depend on the establishment to be honest and provide "plenty of data" that proves they were lying. It's more likely that they will continue to hide data, equivocate and be dishonest, right?

Even then with a preponderance of evidence contrary to the established narrative, many doctors, scientists and researchers STILL spun wildly, redacted what they'd said, and otherwise refused to admit that they were wrong and had routinely supported false narratives. It was a sad episode in human history, and I hope that we all learn from it and do better.
 
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Anyone is able to go to PoReMu and look at that thread and see which two posted the most, and exactly what they were saying to keep it all going off track. Please just let it go and don't rize up this thread too. You are a hater of truth, and I hope somehow that will change.
Yep, anyone can go in there and see you transparently push your spectacularly ignorant narrative and get called out on it. Then they’ll see the 15+ likes on my post that called you out. One would think that might provoke a little introspection.

Not you, though.
 
Therefore, we CANNOT depend on the establishment to be honest and provide "plenty of data" that proves they were lying. It's more likely that they will continue to hide data, equivocate and be dishonest, right?
I hear ya. Sketchy stuff with vaccines no doubt. But, feel like you can go in circles with this logic and make any point you could ever want and say the data is hidden and my side of right.

Have to at least provide some kind of data for an argument beyond "seems like it’s happening more"
 
I thank God he survived and I pray he fully recovers.
I would like to know if he had any pre existing conditions that may have contributed to the CA.
 
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hence the CPR. Although it doesn't say so explicitly, it sounds like they stabilized him before getting in the ambulance. Sedated and in critical condition.

Hopefully with the proximity of help, he wasn't in arrest for long.

So reported today that his pulse was regained on the field (following protocol of treating in place before moving). And before hospital transport he regained consciousness (per his friend/agent).

Not sure if he was them intubated before or after arriving at hospital. And hypothermia treatment (typically for 24 hours after cardiac arrest).

His uncle is now reporting he has gone from 100% oxygen to 50% tonight. So some indication his breathing is improving. Still lung damage though.

If he is intubated > 72 hours, then concern for recovery.

Additional testing will be done to rule out any other contributing health conditions.
 
So reported today that his pulse was regained on the field (following protocol of treating in place before moving). And before hospital transport he regained consciousness (per his friend/agent).

Not sure if he was them intubated before or after arriving at hospital. And hypothermia treatment (typically for 24 hours after cardiac arrest).

His uncle is now reporting he has gone from 100% oxygen to 50% tonight. So some indication his breathing is improving. Still lung damage though.

If he is intubated > 72 hours, then concern for recovery.

Additional testing will be done to rule out any other contributing health conditions.
 
I know videos explaining this have came up on here. This goes in to great detail of what happened, but also what typically happens after the patient has pulse and possible scenarios of treatment after.
 
I honestly have zero information regarding such things so real questions here-

Is there data that shows it's not so rare anymore, or just going off of stories you've heard?
It’s not athletes dying and has little or nothing to do with the player last night, but the rates of emergency cardiac events among young people are up among those vaccinated for COVID. They are also up (even more?) among those who have been infected…

 
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