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As a physician who was partially trained at the CDC I believe that I could do little to satisfy most of the women that @SHORTS has introduced into this thread. Seems that on here, in society and in my practice most have definitively made up their mind about vaccines and can not be swayed. I regret opening this thread..........except for seeing said women I can not physically satisfy ($2 to SHORTS).
 
I don’t know why you even try to come across as balanced anymore. I’ve called you out several times for saying the delta wave was “planned”. You’re accusing others of being partisan and hypocritical, all while you might be one of the biggest hypocrites. Very narcissistic.
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I don’t know why you even try to come across as balanced anymore. I’ve called you out several times for saying the delta wave was “planned”. You’re accusing others of being partisan and hypocritical, all while you might be one of the biggest hypocrites. Very narcissistic.

I've posted more than enough for everyone to come to their own opinions as to whether I actually try to conduct intelligent discourse on topics, or run around disrupting good convo by calling names while REFUSING to respond to or acknowledge good points, and even irrefutable truth.

If I've posted an argument that you feel is factually incorrect, then please respond to it. Trying to wave hands, distract and cast someone as a "quack" or "anti-vaxxer" is a really cheap approach. Do you have any arguments that I've offered that you'd like to refute? I know that you typically add NOTHING to discussions at all, and coming in taking potshots trying to falsely label me as narcissist won't work with those who are actually paying attention.
 
I've posted more than enough for everyone to come to their own opinions as to whether I actually try to conduct intelligent discourse on topics, or run around disrupting good convo by calling names while REFUSING to respond to or acknowledge good points, and even irrefutable truth.

If I've posted an argument that you feel is factually incorrect, then please respond to it. Trying to wave hands, distract and cast someone as a "quack" or "anti-vaxxer" is a really cheap approach. Do you have any arguments that I've offered that you'd like to refute? I know that you typically add NOTHING to discussions at all, and coming in taking potshots trying to falsely label me as narcissist won't work with those who are actually paying attention.
You just aren’t honest and pretend to be “fair and balanced”, when in reality, you’re actually the hypocrite. But hey, if you don’t want to address your suggestion that the delta surge was planned, then I’m sure those paying attention will take notice of that.
 
He has found his fame and the attention that he craves so much from anti-vaccine crowd. He finally feels that he is getting some credit after hundreds of researchers used his early work. He makes the rounds on Steve Bannon, Glen Beck, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc. There is a saying about the company one keeps. Once again, he is qualified to speak on this for sure but he is in the 1% that has these concerns.

Once again, his claim that he “invented” the vaccine is akin to saying Benjamin Franklin invented the electric car because he discovered the lightning rod.

Thanks for responding, but NONE of the things you mentioned validates your calling him an "anti-vaxxer".

"Anti-vaxxer" is a term that's used as a misinformation attack, and it was put out during this pandemic as a means of summarily dismissing and disqualifying anyone who has an opinion that differs from the established narrative on COVID, and it's wrong to use simple marketing tricks like that to stereotype and dismiss opposing voices with qualified options. It's a GREAT way to destroy objectivity and good thorough scientific method that is based on the practitioners having considered all important variables and viable options.

If you can't refute his actual positions, or prove that he's an anti-vaxxer, it might be a good thing if you'd consider not tossing that label out unfairly.
 
Could you summarize his opinion? No one has yet.

I haven't listened to it yet, but 1993 did a summary above.

In the interviews that I have heard, he simply expressed concern regarding aspects of the new vaccines that any good scientist interested in the truth, might have concerns about. However, the leading agencies have created an environment where anyone not lying, and/or 100% on narrative, is attacked viscously. He came across as rather balanced and fair, and certainly not a true quack.

Scientists, researchers and doctors should be allowed to investigate and look into the general types of things that he has expressed concerns about, (IF we really want truth and true science to rule the day instead of the manipulative propaganda and untruths that have dominated during this pandemic).
 
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Thanks for finding one of the many posts where au4life proved he's a delusional conspiracy nut.

Again, you take the low route and resort to out and out lies. There is a VERY good reason that you, @gatorz1209 and the others in Stomp's crew will NOT try to refute an actual argument, and instead has to distract away from the actual topic with foolishness such as memes and name-calling.

I hate to embarrass both of you like this, but you said there were "many posts" that prove I'm a conspiracy nut, so please go out and get just 2 or 3 of them and link them. My bet is that out of over a 1000 posts on COVID, you won't be able to back up your claim. I've asked you guys things like this dozens of times, and you NEVER are able to back up the lies you've told. #Oof
 
You just aren’t honest and pretend to be “fair and balanced”, when in reality, you’re actually the hypocrite. But hey, if you don’t want to address your suggestion that the delta surge was planned, then I’m sure those paying attention will take notice of that.

Just as I thought. You don't have a single argument that you'd like to try and refute, therefore you clearly disqualify yourself. All you can do is distract and cast aspersions. Please do better.
 
Thanks for responding, but NONE of the things you mentioned validates your calling him an "anti-vaxxer".

"Anti-vaxxer" is a term that's used as a misinformation attack, and it was put out during this pandemic as a means of summarily dismissing and disqualifying anyone who has an opinion that differs from the established narrative on COVID,
They had the definition changed to include people who were against vaccine mandates.

"Definition of anti-vaxxer: a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination," Merriam-Webster’s website currently states, noting that it was updated on Sept. 29, 2021.
 
They had the definition changed to include people who were against vaccine mandates.

"Definition of anti-vaxxer: a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination," Merriam-Webster’s website currently states, noting that it was updated on Sept. 29, 2021.

The goalposts and many LONG-TIME definitions have been changing furiously during this entire pandemic, (in order to support the established narrative).

It's truly sad when truth, honesty and true science is sacrificed in favor of manipulative and controlled agendas. I've never seen anything like it, and it is truly sad and doesn't bode well for mankind. We need to always ensure that we're doing real science and advocating for truth to the greatest degree possible.
 
You just aren’t honest and pretend to be “fair and balanced”, when in reality, you’re actually the hypocrite. But hey, if you don’t want to address your suggestion that the delta surge was planned, then I’m sure those paying attention will take notice of that.
He tries to couch his nutty views sufficiently enough so that they come across as reasonable, but he always ends up posting delusional conspiracy nonsense like that. Just as he's doing here, he desperately tries to crab walk away from it whenever he's called out for it.
 
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The goalposts and many LONG-TIME definitions have been changing furiously during this entire pandemic, (in order to support the established narrative).

It's truly sad when truth, honesty and true science is sacrificed in favor of manipulative and controlled agendas. I've never seen anything like it, and it is truly sad and doesn't bode well for mankind. We need to always ensure that we're doing real science and advocating for truth to the greatest degree possible.
I don't have an issue with what "they" are trying to get people to do. I think vaccination is 100% the best route. I have an issue with the way "they" are trying to do it. Force feeding Americans never goes well. Well over 1/2 the country does not trust the government.
 
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Just as I thought. You don't have a single argument that you'd like to try and refute, therefore you clearly disqualify yourself. All you can do is distract and cast aspersions. Please do better.
Who’s distracting? I’m warning people ITT to reconsider taking you seriously, considering you hinted the delta surge was planned.
 
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I haven't listened to it yet, but 1993 did a summary above.

In the interviews that I have heard, he simply expressed concern regarding aspects of the new vaccines that any good scientist interested in the truth, might have concerns about. However, the leading agencies have created an environment where anyone not lying, and/or 100% on narrative, is attacked viscously. He came across as rather balanced and fair, and certainly not a true quack.

Scientists, researchers and doctors should be allowed to investigate and look into the general types of things that he has expressed concerns about, (IF we really want truth and true science to rule the day instead of the manipulative propaganda and untruths that have dominated during this pandemic).
What concerns about what aspects? Side effects? Seems we have enough information now to conclude that isn’t a big threat. Lack of efficacy? Same. Does he advocate some course of action other than encouraging people to get the vaccines and if so what?
 
To be fair, you and the other's in Stomp's crew do this to a severe EXTREME. It ruins any attempts at mature, intelligent discourse. If you can't actually make a good point refuting someone's opinion, you should consider whether that opinion contains some truth that causes you to reconsider your position.

Honestly, the way you guys operate is so, so bad, that you all deserve to be banned for ruining so many discussions and constantly pulling them down into the mud at a 4th grade level. If you feel someone is wrong or incorrect, stay focused on the argument and point out the flaws instead of deflecting and attacking the person with a crazy ad hominem attack.
You or someone else has to actually articulate an argument 😂
 
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He tries to couch his nutty views sufficiently enough so that they come across as reasonable, but he always ends up posting delusional conspiracy nonsense like that. Just as he's doing here, he desperately tries to crab walk away from it whenever he's called out for it.

He always slips up.
 
I don't have an issue with what "they" are trying to get people to do. I think vaccination is 100% the best route. I have an issue with the way "they" are trying to do it. Force feeding Americans never goes well. Well over 1/2 the country does not trust the government.
We have had vaccine mandates for schools, the military and all manner of other government and private entities for 100+ years. Very few people had a problem with vaccines or vaccine requirements until the right-wing talking heads announced the COVID vaccine was a dangerous affront to liberty.
 
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We have had vaccine mandates for schools, the military and all manner of other government and private entities for 100+ years. Very few people had a problem with vaccines or vaccine requirements until the right-wing talking heads announced the COVID vaccine was a dangerous affront to liberty.
Yeah. My first day in basic training and I looked like I fell into a bed of cactuses. And saying no was not an option. Then, before we deployed to some 3rd world shithole, it was a trip to the gymnasium to update wills, life insurance beneficiaries and get more shots. In our little yellow vaccination book, they didn't write what one of them was, just some random code of a bunch of numbers and letters. And, again, saying no was not an option. I made a fuss about my civil liberties being violated, and having a choice about whether i allow a needle in my arm. They laughed at me, and said its the needle or a dishonorable discharge and every shitty detail they can think up for me to do until then.
 
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Yeah. My first day in basic training and I looked like I fell into a bed of cactuses. And saying no was not an option. Then, before we deployed to some 3rd world shithole, it was a trip to the gymnasium to update wills, life insurance beneficiaries and get more shots. In out little yellow vaccination book, they didn't write what one of them was, just some random code of a bunch of numbers and letters. And, again, saying no was not an option.
Haha, thanks for that great illustration of the point. Vaccines were not controversial prior to the last year outside of small, fringe group of looney toons.
 
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Haha, thanks for that great illustration of the point. Vaccines were not controversial prior to the last year outside of small, fringe group of looney toons.
Yeah, civil liberties wasnt a concern of folks until people were programed by tv opinion news channels trying to get one party or the other elected
 
Just so everyone understands where @au4life_rz is coming from. Don’t let him convince you he’s unbiased. See below for yourselves.
But he just wants everyone to know the TRUTH and is being FAIR and BALANCED and UNBIASED and just hates how everyone but him is spreading misinformation. We should all strive to be so pure. Fvcking lolz
 
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