Whenever you have a little time to kill
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Do you think the Delta surge was planned? The only responses are “yes” or “no.” You don’t need paragraphs or italics. Just one of two words.
People still talking about and delta and whatever bs, this thing is permanent now, move on to the hot sluts
Thank God you came to this thread to help us through
@au4life_rz does not like thisMy man!
It’s still here shorts. I checked in just like a rubber neck at car wrecks. It’s as I expected.
Paragraphs and ITALICS! Lol
I've said from the very beginning that my primary issue is with HOW they are going about it. I will never be onboard with a method that involves deceit, suppression of reasonable information, manipulation, lying and Orwellian censorship. Using an approach based on full disclosure, openness and provision of balanced information so that folks can make an informed decision is the way to go IMHO. I believe we'd generate more overall trust if they'd change to use an approach based on openness and honestly.
I also believe we could have greatly increased vaccination numbers by simply providing a third vaccine option based on classical vaccine technology such as inactivated viruses, but instead they decided to force feed the mRNA vaccines.
You said that you believe that "vaccination is 100% the best route". After two years of this "most desperate" emergency, what other options have been provided? What other options were you comparing to the new vaccines to decide that it is the best approach? IMHO, it's telling that we don't have ANY other options available, and anyone that offers any other ideas or treatments are attacked and shot down immediately.
I post quite enough that folks have AMPLE material to form their own opinions. You are deflecting, distracting and avoiding providing an actual rebuttal that refutes opinions that you do not agree with. It's a HORRIBLE loserific way to "debate" and discuss important topics.
I have indeed articulated dozens and dozens of arguments and you and the rest of Stomp's crew rarely if ever respond with an actual counter-argument, rebuttal or a remotely intelligent response. Instead, you come with lies and ad hominem attacks and it's an extremely poor way to try and discredit something that you don't agree with.
Just stop it Stomp. I'm VERY intentional, deliberate and consistent in what I say. If you could refute my two cents of opinion, you would, but instead, even when science has CLEARLY proven me to be right, you, DM8 and others refuse to admit that you were DEAD WRONG, and instead deflected and moved to other topics or just told outright lies.
Real men and stand up guys don't operate like that.
The MAJOR difference, (and important difference), is that in the past our vaccine mandates involved technology that we had TONS of data over the full life-cycle, from decades of use, so the risk was much lower. It's crazy to compare the mandates for Measles, Polio and Mumps et. al. with these new mRNA vaccines that we only have data on from the immediate short term.
This key difference makes the risk profiles significantly different, so you simply cannot mandate that someone take a new, unproven drug or treatment. Provide a COVID vaccine based off of classic vaccine technology, an NO ONE would be complaining, (as most everyone in America has already taken many vaccines based on these technologies without complaint).
That's because those vaccines were predominantly based on classical, proven technology that we could scientifically guarantee as being safe, (since we had decades of data across the full life-cycle of usage for the vaccines).
In addition, being in the military is a bit different than being a civilian. Lastly, go look up all of the issues our soldiers had with the smallpox vaccine that was mandated. This is why new drugs and new technology has a significantly higher risk profile until we have data from across the full life-cycle. People aren't thinking clearly or being honest.
Hahahahaha!!! You’re so delusional that you believe that. You said delta was planned. Lol
Early on, I told you several times that I thought there was a good chance that fully vaccinated persons might be able to maintain significant viral load, catch COVID, and even spread it to others. You and DM8 laughed and repeatedly denied that it was a possibility, but of course, science eventually proved that they could, and the CDC was, (against all odds), forced to reverse it's whacky, bad science guidance.
To this day, despite mountains of scientific evidence, and the leading agencies changing their guidance, you still won't admit that you were wrong, and you continued to deny this scientific fact. That's why no one take you and your crew seriously.
This is an even larger wall of text than I was expecting, yet in all of this rambling nonsense, he still didn't manage to answer the yes or no question posed by @MattAU05.
@gatorz1209 already posted the quote where you made the insane claim that the delta wave was planned. Watching you desperately try to avoid answering the yes/no question posed by Matt is highly entertaining. You are an embarrassing conspiracy nut.
I won’t reply to anything you post until you explain yourself on the delta wave being “planned”. You’ve crab walked your way around this erroneous statement, and somehow still believe you are “fair and balanced”.
So, no, I mother fvcking will not respond to any questions you have until you acknowledge the statement you made about delta.
False. You said it was going to be a huge problem and insinuated they would spread it like unvaccinated people. It wasn’t even close. Delta was planned! Lol
My brother in law had vax--next day was going into shock--heart racing, couldn't talk, shaking
He made it to emergency room and they checked for heart attack but said he was ok
would not say it was due to vaccine but it was obvious--that was the only change in his life style
I don't think any doctor is going to say patient has reaction to vaccine--they are too scared of peer criticism
Here's a little news item that needs more investigating. Would love to see the statistics in other states.
TBfan---read Robert Kennedy's book THE REAL DR FAUCI--he provides hundreds of scientific papers to support his statements about Fauci, CDC, FDA, etc
Dr Harvey Risch, Yale epidemiologist --author of over 350 peer reviewed papers " you can't stop a global pandemic, but you can make it less deadly. Our objectives should have been to devise treatments that would reduce hospitalizations. We could have made Covid 19 so that it was less lethal than the seasonal flu. We could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives"
Dr Peter McCollough on staff at the Baylor University Medical School--author of over 600 peer reviewed papers--the most in US history--40 papers on Covid
"Once a highly transmissible virus like Covid has a beachhead in a population, it is inevitable that it will spread to every individual who lacks immunity. "You can slow it, but you cannot prevent it. WE could have dramatically reduced Covid deaths and hospitalizations using early treatment and repurposed drugs including Ivermectine and hydroxychloroquine and many others."
The CDCowns 57 vaccine patents and spends $4.9 billion/year buying and distributing vaccines
The FDAreceives 45% of its budget from the pharmaceutical industry through what is called user fees
Dr Harvey Risch, Yale epidemiologist --author of over 350 peer reviewed papers " you can't stop a global pandemic, but you can make it less deadly. Our objectives should have been to devise treatments that would reduce hospitalizations. We could have made Covid 19 so that it was less lethal than the seasonal flu. We could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives"
Dr Peter McCollough on staff at the Baylor University Medical School--author of over 600 peer reviewed papers--the most in US history--40 papers on Covid
"Once a highly transmissible virus like Covid has a beachhead in a population, it is inevitable that it will spread to every individual who lacks immunity. "You can slow it, but you cannot prevent it. WE could have dramatically reduced Covid deaths and hospitalizations using early treatment and repurposed drugs including Ivermectine and hydroxychloroquine and many others."
The CDCowns 57 vaccine patents and spends $4.9 billion/year buying and distributing vaccines
The FDAreceives 45% of its budget from the pharmaceutical industry through what is called user fees
Scientific papers, studies, and data do not count when it comes to discussing COVID. Fauci is a god and that's all that matters.
The scientific papers and studies only count when they are encouraging for your preconceived bias. I've learned this from both sides. Both post studies and say the other studies are fluky and false. There's no point in arguing with anyone on this anymore, everyone is set in their opinions and thinks the other side is stupid.
We’ve posted plenty of links, you just choose to believe the 1% for confirmation bias purposes
Takes a lot of words for @au4life_rz to avoid owning up to his dumbass claim that delta was planned.
If you notice, I predicted in the post that both of you would NOT be able to link posts that I've made to back up your false claims. You both are cowards who are looking stupid. You made a claim that you clearly couldn't back up, and are now acting like little kids desperate to find an excuse to not answer.
If you had anything at all, (let alone a link to an actual post that I made condemning myself), both of you would sprain fingers coming out here to post them in an attempt to embarrass me, but again, you don't have anything. Nada. Zilch, to back up your claim. That is why you deflected by posting that same Delta that you pull out whenever it's time to tuck your tail and run. It's a complete cop-out. Stop the foolishness, and try to refute an actual point, opinion or argument, or sit out these debates.
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