What are the odds a player that had COVID last year, like say Dre Butler for instance tests positive again? I'm being serious with this question. It's possible/highly likely that most of the unvaccinated already caught COVID, so they have the antibodies to fight it off if infected again, just like they would with getting the vaccine...for a world class athletes that's 18-22.
BM told the truth to a lot of people who don’t want to hear it. He deserves the praise from that poster and any other member of this site.
the "90 days of no testing" is there by the NCAA because of this
@Bmatt and Team, please double and triple down so that Rice leaves. Thanks.
True, we also differ on bashing/criticizing an individual for catching a HIGHLY contagious virus...that's the issue in my mind. Why can't we just pray for him, wish him a speedy recovery and move on? That's not common anymore with this COVID debate, instead if you catch it you're either an idiot, Trump supporter, or ignorant. This whole thing is just beyond ridiculous now. One more thing to add, we all wanted Harsin to be more involved with the student base, like Bruce...yet when he does that, he then tests positive for COVID, while wearing a mask, and somehow he's a poor leader? Think about how silly that logic is...he went 8 ish months without testing positive, interacts with students...bam, positive. Moral of the story is what?
This and the fact that people cant use the damn search button for a hundred other threads about the same shit everyday.
We hired him to coach our football team and give us the best possible chance to win football games, not his political views on personal choice and vaccines. If his political stances interfere with what he was hired to do, he deserves the criticism.
They are already required to be vaccinated for multiple other things to even enroll in school. I know my daughter had to show proof of all sorts of stuff including measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, HPV, meningitis, chicken pox and others. The only way you get to opt out is if you have a verified medical reason you can't take one of the vaccines (such as an allergy to the ingredients or some other medical condition). Not just "my body my choice." Not to mention, the people who understand that the vaccines are the best available countermeasure against COVID are hardly all or even mostly pro-choice on abortion anyway, so quit with that bullshit.
This I absolutely agree with. Not sure why the every schools AD isn't the most involved in getting all the schools athletes vaxxed and avoiding any potential disasters during the season because of Covid protocols. Really odd to me how it's all on the coach. I get it, to a certain extent, when it's a corch like Saban who runs the school, but especially with a new coach it seems odd.... He's got a hell of a lot of FOOTBALL problems to try to fix, worrying about a virus could've been something handled by his boss IMO.
You're welcome to have blind faith in what's "highly likely" but no country that has done actual random testing to see if a high percentage of the population has gotten COVID previously without realizing it has gotten any data back suggesting that to be the case.
It’s funny that you think @BryanMatthews, who’s been here since the board began, isn’t part of the powers that be. What?
True. But it does mean you won't get tested and lose players who are asymptomatic or have false positives.
Ever wonder why seasonal influenza shots werent part of that required regimen?
BMatt's article is criticizing Harsin for testing positive for COVID and then conflates that with the current team vaccination rate. His point would be more valid if a significant amount of starters missed practice due to a COVID outbreak within the team, as opposed to just Harsin and maybe Mason.(who apparently was vaccinated anyway).
Good to know that the writers at AuburnSports.com care more about wins and losses than the freedom for people to make their own health choices. Especially when those people are young and healthy, and at zero.zero risk from the virus.
This is why it may be important to hit the 85% metric on vaccinations. As long as they test, there will be positives, even for some who are vaccinated. That will mean exposures and quarantines for others and likely will result in players missing games. It is unlikely that any players will get seriously ill or die from the virus, so the main consideration here is availability to play. Hitting the metric to lower the amount of testing is the best way to assure that players don't miss games.
This is true, but why is Harsin a poor leader because he caught the virus, while most likely engaging with students on campus, and wearing a mask, as the CDC has asked unvaccinated(or even vaccinated) to do. That's the disconnect in my mind here. One doesn't equate to the other. This column would have made more sense if there was a COVID outbreak on the team AND Harsin also tested positive.
understand your point but am somewhat confused. How do we know if he hasn't emphasized this ordeal? How do we know if he himself hasn't taken every precaution as the other coaches? Do some think that he has persuaded his team to not take the vaccine? All this hand wringing because of what s ome interpret what he's said or hasn't said? Isn't it up to the university itself to make public it's policy on this? What if some of these other coaches mentioned, in the coming weeks come down with the virus and also have to sit out after taking every precaution, same as players on these other teams? So, this is mostly about appearances and percentages?
Great point! If Harsin doesn’t work out, we can see if Jimmy Johnson will Zoom coach us since he could work from home.
Because Harsin was mean to the beat writers during media days so they have a vendetta.
There is an outbreak of sorts in the complex (not sure what the official definition is) and Harsin has tested positive.
Their rate of infection/positive test seems to be similar to the rate for those who have been vaccinated. With delta, that is higher than it was for the previous strains. According to some data, the effectivity for infection with delta offered by vaccination is in the low forties percent. Some other data suggest in the seventies percent. Regardless, having had COVID or having been vaccinated will not completely prevent infection now. The SEC is not giving "credit" for previous infection when it comes to testing. Avoiding the testing is what matters. Almost none of these players are likely to suffer ill effects from COVID itself so the vax vs virus debate for that doesn't matter as much. It's all about avoiding the testing and staying eligible to practice/play.
Does being vaccinated insure that you aren't setting at home right now? * See Derek vaccinated Mason
People, young people, who crusade against the vaccine.
So how do we know this? What is our rate? I'm not just being difficult or even skeptical. I just don't understand how this can be stated definitely without a number associated with it. If we know that our rate is so low, then what is our rate?
