US Soccer reporter Grant Wahl dies during world cup game in Qatar
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How did he make Qatar look bad? Qatar has been making itself look bad for a very long time.
The story about the mistreatment of workers has been big news all over the world for more than three years. A really big story. He didn't break it and he didn't add to it in any meaningful way.
He had been sick for more than 10 days. Did they anticipate his questions about the worker's death and poison him in advance?
It's always possible that something nefarious happened. Can't be ruled out until evidence rules it out, but to go straight to that, is a huge leap.
They wouldn’t allow him into the stadium with a rainbow shirt and he made a big story about it. That’s making them look bad. You act like countries like this haven’t silenced journalist before.
It’s part of a protest. They allegedly killed a protestor and journalist in this case.
I was talking about Togo, Burkina Faso, Uganda, CAF.
It's easy to assimilate in Hawaii; that's America.
Dang, man. I cannot imagine how this thread can end up in Covid Corner, but you somehow did it.
Stop bothering us about COVID. Nobody gives a damn.
I replied to another post.
Jump his ass now.
Little_General said:
The myocarditis caused by the vaccine is mild and the vast majority of people completely recover. When myocarditis happens after COVID, on the other hand, outcomes are worse.
here's another one
By the way you do know there are now documented cases of vaccine and booster injury with the main complication being pulmonary and cardiac related. It's rare right now but it's real.
Updating this to bring awareness. My uncle died from this in 1999 at the age of 59. He was otherwise very healthy. He was actually in the hospital waiting to be discharged that morning when a nurse found him unresponsive. Doctors had run numerous tests, including a heart catherization, the previous day and couldn't find anything wrong with him. He had complained of slight chest congestion and just not feeling 100%. Doctors thought he was well enough to go home. Very unfortunate that symptoms mimic that of a cold or flu. Autopsy revealed aortic aneurysm.
www.tmz.com
Grant Wahl's Wife Says Journalist Died From Ruptured Aortic Aneurysm
Grant Wahl's wife says "there was nothing nefarious" about the soccer journalist's death ... explaining on Wednesday that the 49-year-old died from a ruptured aortic aneurysm.
www.tmz.com
You simply cannot go head-long into other countries pushing Western values, and especially when some of your values may be somewhat misguided, and/or not understood fully.
Qatar was awarded the games, and though many may not have liked that, you should be a good guest while in their house, and make CERTAIN, that if you're going to crusade, it's for a true human rights violation/really clearly solid, good cause.
Wouldn't it largely depend on the mechanisms of the vaccination??? With classical vaccine technology, we have great data over the full life-cycle, so we can clearly say that is not at all likely to happen.
However, as the science evolves, and new medical treatments are developed, the biological mechanisms involved with those treatments would seem to be the most important indicator as to whether the new technology might cause any type of harm, (whether it be in the short-term, mid-term, or long-term), correct???
I mean, just stop and consider how brain dead stupid it is to make an apples to oranges comparison between two completely different vaccine technologies, (as has been done CONTINUALLY since the Covid pandemic). I have to believe that even the dullest scientists, doctors and researchers can understand why you can't take data from classical vaccines like Measles, and try to blindly apply it to the new mRNA vaccines. So Occam's razor would seem to indicate that it was being done on purpose in order to manipulate/tricking the general public into taking the new vaccines, (thinking that was the right way to approach it).
Updating this to bring awareness. My uncle died from this in 1999 at the age of 59. He was otherwise very healthy. He was actually in the hospital waiting to be discharged that morning when a nurse found him unresponsive. Doctors had run numerous tests, including a heart catherization, the previous day and couldn't find anything wrong with him. He had complained of slight chest congestion and just not feeling 100%. Doctors thought he was well enough to go home. Very unfortunate that symptoms mimic that of a cold or flu. Autopsy revealed aortic aneurysm.
Grant Wahl's Wife Says Journalist Died From Ruptured Aortic Aneurysm
Grant Wahl's wife says "there was nothing nefarious" about the soccer journalist's death ... explaining on Wednesday that the 49-year-old died from a ruptured aortic aneurysm.
Thanks for the update. For those who don't know, his wife is Dr. Celine Gounder, (who is a somewhat prominent infectious disease and global health specialist). Given the hub-bub, she felt the need to provide a special statement on his death, (shown below).
"No amount of CPR or shocks would have saved him. His death was unrelated to COVID. His death was unrelated to vaccination status."
Yeah, of course it would. Doesn’t the temperature outside largely depend on the time of year we’re in? What a banal statement.
We have an enormous amount of data on these mRNA vaccines. Your lack of knowledge on the nature of them is your problem. Here’s a simple question for you:
By what biological means might there be new sequelae which arises years (or decades) after receiving an mRNA vaccine that would not already have been detected? Try not to dodge.
If the answer is yes, then SHUT UP. It's not banal at all, (and I'm TIRED of having to break this stuff down and explain it to you). You are SO cocky, rude and full of yourself, yet you have to be spoon fed like a little baby.
The statement isn't banal, nor is it irrelevant, because your boss, Stumpfan, didn't seem to realize it, or reflect it in his statement. He's following the narrative's playbook and saying, "Hey, we know from all of the decades of data, that it's exceedingly rare for side-effects to show up years down the road". However, any "scientist" or intelligent person with a good grasp on data analysis, (or the situation), would know that there is a HUUUUUUGE and critical difference that invalidates this deceptive premise, and leads to a faulty interpretation/conclusion.
That is the FACT that the decades of data that proves side-effects rarely show up long after vaccines are given, is all derived from CLASSICAL VACCINE technology such as inactivated and LAV, (i.e. measles, mumps, polio et. al.). The key difference is that these new/novel mRNA vaccines are built upon completely new technology that we've not used to mass "inoculate"/immunize humans before. Therefore, we had/have no data across the full life-cycle for these new vaccines. You and he did not seem to realize that the biological mechanisms for the classical vaccines, and these new mRNA vaccines are different, so someone needed to point it out for you.
If the mechanisms are different, then the previous data can't be used by default because are then left comparing apples to oranges. I'm on record multiple times offering my humble, two cents of unqualified opinion as to a couple areas I wouldn't be surprised to see some unforeseen wrinkles popping up, God forbid, IF something were to go wrong down the road. You can get one of your crew to recount them for you, or provide the link to them.
It’s extremely banal. Sorry you can’t handle criticism.
And this is precisely where your lack of knowledge on the mechanisms of actions of the new vaccines fails you (and everyone that’s subjected to your bloviation). mRNA vaccines are, by design, volatile compounds that degrade rapidly once they’re above freezing. In order to believe that the new vaccines might cause some long-term issue that would remain dormant for years, you’d have to be willing to completely ignore how they work. Or, in your case, be completely unaware.
LOL!!! You are a Johnny-come-lately, late to the party troll-tard. We've had months to years of debate covering all machinations of the new vaccines, so yeah, you are dead wrong in your assumptions YET AGAIN. What I've said on the topic is locked in stone as documented fact, and your buddies set you out and let you step into that HUGE pothole. You are not very good at guessing, arguing, or assuming, so please stop.
I've have made arguments before that there are FAR too many scientists with middling IQ's, who couldn't really think their way out of a wet paper sack. That, and at times confirmation bias, leads them to evaluating criteria in FAR to small of a scope, so they miss many key bigger picture aspects. They just don't analyze far enough beyond the surface/short-term and are only considering things a foot or two ahead, (and therefore miss key bigger picture, more complex and complicated considerations). It takes this type and level of elite analysis and upper 1% - 3% intelligence quotient to catch those things, and that's why folks like Galileo are attacked by the bulk of the bell curve establishment.
I may eventually pull back up my two cents on the topic, but for now, I'll leave you hanging somewhat, (as everyone else who cares has already seen it). I WILL give you a hint/tip/clue to help you figure out some of the potential side-effects by simply saying that while long-term issues might not exactly be likely, there are potential impacts, (given the micro-biological mechanisms at play), that could indeed lead to issues well after the lipid nanoparticles (LNPs), are long gone. The human body and it's micro to macro biological systems are UBER, uber complex, yet dullards think that because the LNPs degrade quickly, all is automatically well. I mean, I'd be downright embarrassed inferring that I was a scientist, but I couldn't figure out mere basics like that, (just SMH).
Ooo, looks like I might have touched a nerve.
I don’t think I am. Guess we’re at a crossroads.
That’s a surprise to absolutely no one, I assure you.
No, you don’t get to dodge the question by simply stating the biology is complex. No shit it is. That banal fact is not an argument for your position that the vaccines could cause long term issues we’re unable to predict with the massive amount of data we have at present, over the course of years.
Dude, is English your first language??? You don't seem to understand rather simple things too well. I said I've already opined. My two cents is already documented. You're late to the party so you are left hanging and will have to wait.
You aren't serious about conducting intelligent discourse, nor trying to come together and reason together to potentially learn from each other, (and just have good convo), so I'm not going to go out of my way for you. Your nasty attitude and penchant to prefer silly pissing contest is on display even now. You didn't even attempt to address the most substantive things I said in my previous post, but instead tried to come back with a weak strawman making it appear as if I'm dodging your question. You show some traits of an antagonistic narcissist.
I can tell you now that you wouldn't agree with anything that I've said, (and your buddies didn't either), because you guys are the type that only grasp the obvious, after-the-fact who can only grasp things after true ground-breakers make novel discoveries, and break down the science behind them, so let it go. Those conversations have just the right amount of "dangling participle" for us to dust them off, and pick them back up if we ever need to, (and God knows I pray that no unintended side-effects ever pop up).
You still don't realize it, but sophomoric manipulation does NOT motivate me. Do you not know that I typically see your little moves 4 or 5 steps ahead of you making them, and typically already know the whats and whys behind you making them. It's a simple rook to Queen's 4, (and you'll get nothing and like it).
The irony of calling someone a narcissist and writing this wall of text with a bunch of ten dollar words you have a tenuous grasp of is not lost on me.
Thanks for reminding me that you’re not worth conversing with, though.
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