That is not a rational fear to have. Black people that commit violent crime are killed by police at the same rate as white people that commit violent crime.
I could only really read one tweet and noticed Hoover was mentioned. Hoover was an absolutely awful lawman. One could argue he let one of his boy toys control Boston and allow Irish gangsters to murder with impunity which destroyed countless families. Oh, and then there were the native Americans being murdered where he was late to the party. The list goes on.
Do you think black people commit all those crimes because they're black? Could it be something else? Maybe it's a good subject to have a conversation about.
To the murderer, Chauvin, it was not the crime I think it was the hatred. He was not there at the original stop and he is the one who pulls him out of the car and throws him down. That cop was going to murder someone because he was full of disdain and hate. The 20$ was not the problem to him it was he had to come to help out. I think the younger officers were cowards and let the bully take over. My only thought is this guy had done this a bunch and if he had been off the force the younger guys might have taken more time but Floyd would be alive today.
From a law enforcement stance, this is very true. Police Departments know where their high crime areas are and statistically it's in the black communities, this isn't JUST a cop issue, it's a crime rate issue as well.
I don’t agree with being scared of blacks in general. I think the issue is we as whites know a lot of blacks hate us, and I don’t think that’s fair, but we all tend to get labeled racist because we are white and that is so far from the truth. Just as all police are getting a bad rap I think a lot of whites do too. I do not care what color anyone is and I have plenty of friends now and when I was at Auburn of all races. But feeling like a group hates you for no reason does make you a little scared in certain situations and in certain groups or areas.
Agree 100 percent and the this instance was going well until getting in the car. It was not horrible with him laying in the car and nothing was bad then from either side. Problem was our murderer was still on call and when he got there he was going to show the young guys how to abuse a citizen. Thing is if Floyd had this officer show up first I think he still would have been dead even if he almost ran and jumped in the car. Thing is I do not think it is a race thing it is your background that cause the fear. My neighbor loves the police more than I do because they saved his son from the drug gangs. So he is not terrified when the police come through the neighborhood.
In fairness, Brent probably lives in one of the most racist cities in the South, Montgomery...where a good majority of the crime is from the black community. That's where the "stereotype" comes into play, statistics. So the less black people that commit crimes, the less officers that show up to a scene will believe each black person they encounter is a criminal..it's a double edged sword.
This. A million times this.
And I agree there are a lot of people that hate the other race. The problem is the ones of us on both sides that have nothing to do with all that will get caught up in it. I’ve seen reports of these people in the streets letting black people in cars go past and then stopping the whites people and bashing their car in and endangering their lives. That’s not fair to the good ones. I am all for black lives matter and don’t care for these people wanting to scream all loves matter, we aren’t talking about all lives right now. But will I be attacked and targeted just because I’m white and nobody knows my opinion? I hope not.
I have to deal with all of our special needs kids in the school. It is hard not to notice physical appearance but you can do it. I can talk about one of my kids that is a welder now and tell you how hard he had to work. I can focus on his terrible struggle to master the skills to do that and how proud I am of him being able to help my other students with their math skills. Do I need to start the conversation that he was a Dwarf who could barely walk because of his malformed feet. Yes I can but if I do that I diminish him as a person where his dwarfism becomes the focus of attention and not his accomplishments. Only time I will bring it up is if I have another who has handicaps that he overcome.
I know they FEEL that way, but the facts don’t support the way they feel.
I want to read more about Hoover because there’s so much he did that was so very wrong. Like no benefit of the doubt wrong. That had to have done some good things to at least attempt to balance it that out.
I could not and will not even try to put myself in their shoes, not even fair for me to think I could. I do support Black Lives Matter and I am here for any of my friends. I was not comparing the two sides I was just responding to a post on being scared and why for me. That’s what the OP is about.
This exactly! A lot of people have become so selfish and entitled. Some people feel that they don't have to not only abide by certain rules/laws but what should be just common decency for fellow people. I am not scared of any race either but completely 100% cannot stand inconsiderate assholes and unfortunately that number grows by the day. Its refreshing to meet someone who still holds good family and morale values in their lives and don't wake up every morning ready to watch the world burn.
I think @AgainstTheSpread had a great reply ITT and I will say, in addition to cultures clashing, it’s also how someone chooses to carry themselves.
I agree with the quote but I don’t think it’s fair to lump all whites or all blacks or all Hispanics Into any one category. I know they feel they have a reason to hate, but I also know I don’t feel I have done anything for them to hate me. And that was my point.I think it's worth pointing out that, while you feel the hate for no reason, many in the black community feel there is plenty of reason. To many, the entire network of how we function in this country give the white person a leg up, a head start, on almost any black person born in this country. I think this quote sums it up well for me. I don’t know that it will change any minds or opinions, but maybe it will help some reflect on and think about it. I know it has for me.
I don’t think whites are naturally scared of blacks. I’m not sure why you get that impression. I do sense hostility from Southern blacks when I come down South.
Again, I'm not going to pretend to answer this question from a black perspective but I guess this is what I always relate this topic to when I'm speaking with my friends when they tell me about the lessons they teach their black children on how to conduct themselves with police. I get it because I have three daughters and I teach them how to conduct themselves to try to avoid dangerous situations and keep from getting raped.
That’s a rather naive and shallow take.I think it's worth pointing out that, while you feel the hate for no reason, many in the black community feel there is plenty of reason. To many, the entire network of how we function in this country give the white person a leg up, a head start, on almost any black person born in this country. I think this quote sums it up well for me. I don’t know that it will change any minds or opinions, but maybe it will help some reflect on and think about it. I know it has for me.
Why would you trust anyone 100%? I trust about 10 people in the world 100%, there are another 100 I generally trust for the most part and everyone else is in the needs to be verified category and will likely act in their own self interest in most situations so be prepared for that.
I hate that you feel threatened by police. I hate the fact that people have general fears or likes based on race. Hell you have bad apples in your family that you can't stand. I get very depressed that we let our leaders hide from real problems by using media perception to agitate people against each other. Think of how many times you see the Floyd tape and you wonder why they have fear. Show someone who is nervous about a flight a thousand plane wreck footage, even if they are all the same wreck, and you would be a Superman to not be nervous.
