Clown. This blanket distrust of everything government and institutional, including the PRIVATE SECTOR companies involved, is goddamn nuts. Childish, selfish, irrational, nutjob asswagonry.
Just get the shots, do it now, it's that simple ....
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“Just get the shots”
i decided today that i'm gonna get the shots but i'm still annoyed at how this has become a massive peer pressure campaign...it's fuggin annoying as hayul
One studies showing natural immunity is better than the Pfizer.
You deniers realize if the internet had been around in the 50s for you all to goad each other on, then we’d never have eradicated polio? Idiots.
Lost a friend/former coworker this last week from covid. His wife said he was one of those that was rarely ever sick. No previous health issues. He wasn't vaccinated. He was 49 yrs young. The choice is yours.
put me in the group that doesn't care enough about sports to force humans to take vaccines
"Shots reduce the severity if you do get it and reduce the risk for everyone by creating this herd immunity"
Those are good reasons to get the shot
"They've been around for months and there's no problems. FDA tests are apparently going well"
So why isn't FDA approval a certainty, ... or already approved? (instead of only "likely")
"Now for kids under 18, I don't know what to say. I have a 5 year old grandson, and I don't know what is the right thing for him."
Then why are you so certain it's the right thing for adults?
"To me, it's an act of selfishness, for adults to not get the shots, just to help reduce the spread to young children."
If the shot is so beneficial to the recipient how is it so selfish to refuse it? It's available and approved for 12 or older..... emergency use approval I think they call it. Shouldn't they just get the shot and be out of danger?
Probably going to start having children in a couple years. Barely any babies born yet from people who have been vaccinated, if any. Would rather my child not be born with a condition caused by myself or my wife receiving a genetical modification vaccine.
No long term data of over a year. Multiple cases of Myocarditis caused by vaccine already. All for a virus I’ve already had and experienced little to no symptoms.
No I’d rather not take that chance right now.
seriously? Statistically anyone under 65 who has no comorbidities has virtually zero chance of serious complications or death from Covid. People have died from the flu and pneumonia every year - surprisingly those numbers have vanished. There are now a number of areas now that are going back through their covid body counts and reducing about 30 or 40% due over counting - that they can document. There were tons of false positives and miss labeling. They were financial incentives to do so and there remain so.
If the vaccines are safe then why did the companies still have immunity from liability?
No problems, huh?
FDA warns on potential Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine link to rare disorder
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced a new warning on the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine and a possible link to Guillain-Barré, a rare autoimmune nerve disorder.
if you call more people idiots, they will most certainly come to your side of the argument. it's tried and true. works 100% of the time, 70% of the time.
also, stop comparing polio, which had up to a 30% mortality rate, to COVID...it's pretty much akin to comparing COVID to the flu on the flip side.
Why would you have any hesitancy about your grandson?
Maybe I am missing something, but just looking at this data, it appears that they are comparing people with a history of COVID, including those having had one vaccine dose, with those who did not have a history of DCOVID, including unvaccinated and those vaccinated with only one dose. Taking that into account plus the very limited number of cases with a history of COVID, I'm not sure this supports natural immunity being stronger than from the Pfizer vaccine.
What I'm doing... everyone else gets it and I won't need it either..... I've already had covid, so my antibodies should be stronger than the vaccine is what the experts are saying so I'll take my chances waiting it out...
.. and I'm pretty sure the testing isn't completely done for any age group yet. We are just testing it on humans this time around and the data is still out for interpretation.....
I don’t give a **** at this point. The goons are gonna goon. I’m just making sure they get called what they are.
I know of a 40 year old with no comorbidities that died from it. He actually turned 40 on his death bed.
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You should get the shots only because it’s a medical miracle and proven to save lives
Are you kidding me? 49 is very young to be losing your life to illness.
i'm advocating for a 49 year old to have gotten vaccinated. it is not young in terms of COVID vulnerability. so calm down.
that's not what i meant. i should've added some context to that response. definitely a young age to lose your life.
Agreed 100%
However, if it phucks with my upcoming trip to Vegas I will personally be whipping some geriatric non-vaxxer ass!
If I had a 5-year-old child or grandchild, I would not have them vaccinated for COVID. The risks to that age group from the virus itself is miniscule. For example, the hospitalization rate from COVID for 5-to-17-year-olds is much lower than the hospitalization rate for that age group from the flu in 2018-2019. Even if the risk of some unknown future side effect of the vaccine were as low as one in ten trillion, why assume even that infinitesimal risk when there is virtually no risk from the illness from which the vaccine offers protection?
tl;dr - 5-year-olds don't need protection from COVID.
i don't want to be turned away from doing life things like traveling at any point in the future so i'm gonna become a card carrying member of society like a good comrade.
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Glad you made the decision to vaccinate. I understand the difficulty in making the decision because I too struggled with it.
this cracked my azz up....it's the pause for me
It's amazing to me that these families have suffered such tragic loss yet these morons still make such ignorant statements.
No real reason to get it if you had Covid but every study shows reinfection rate or protection from the vaccine is the same or slightly better or slightly worse.
I get your point and I have had my shots but there are people getting very sick. Good friend of mine's wife may not make it because of clots she developed after the shot and has had 4 surgeries in the last 6 weeks now. In the ER today and may not come home. It isn't like there is no risk. I don't blame people for being skeptical but I play the odds and just pray I fall on the right side of them.
Is @Stanley McRustler still doing the most rustled poster contest? If so this is a target rich thread we got going here....
Genetical modification?
But your odds are waaaaaaaay more in your favor taking the vaccine than getting Covid. Your odds are good against both but one is clearly more dangerous than the other.
