Did you read Jason Whitlock's latest article and the things James said on twitter without waiting for more facts to be revealed? That's his biggest issue, he wants to push a narrative of fear and doesn't care about the facts or the judicial process to play out. His twitter followers believe what he says and in turn burn down businesses and cities without waiting for more information to come out via an investigation. He needs to understand that with his platform he has a responsibility to not spray BS anecdotes and wait for the legal process to play out before being judge jury and executioner based off a 20 second twitter clip on a cell phone.I don't get takes like this ... LeBron has a narrative. You have a narrative. I have a narrative. LeBron doesn't owe you or the public anything. If you and others don't like what he says ... don't support him. However, don't say that he doesn't speak out on issues affecting the black community.
He’s playing you. This is what he does.Did you read Jason Whitlock's latest article and the things James said on twitter without waiting for more facts to be revealed? That's his biggest issue, he wants to push a narrative of fear and doesn't care about the facts or the judicial process to play out. His twitter followers believe what he says and in turn burn down businesses and cities without waiting for more information to come out via an investigation.
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Damn. I missed that part. KerryonMan, you are exhausting. I’m in this damn thread banning a dude, cleaning up his mess and you’re bitching that I’m not banning a dude and cleaning up his mess. What’s wrong? Can I help you?
Banned @tugmac and deleted six posts referencing his dumb political shit. It takes a little bit of time to do that, boss.Damn. I missed that part. Kerryon
Sig, link deez nuts!Okay then link the body cam footage.
Yep, good point, I'll just leave this thread now. Thanks for letting this thread to stay around on the Bunker with semi civil discussion especially now that politics and sports have been intertwined in 2020.He’s playing you. This is what he does.
It’s Friday. Maybe some bewbs will lighten the moodBanned @tugmac and deleted six posts referencing his dumb political shit. It takes a little bit of time to do that, boss.
So why isn't he currently protesting the violence in Chicago, NYC, Seattle, Minny, etc? He only "speaks up" when it fits into his narrative..
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Maybe he’s too busy in the playoffs, starting an organization to increase voter turnout, running his foundation that has started a public school and guaranteed free tuition scholarships to college, being a family man, and dozens of other private and public ventures. Lebron walks the walk. He’s done tremendous good for his local community of Akron, and nationally. It’s not up to you to say that unless he disavows everything you think he should disavow, then he does nothing. And a poster has already pointed out LBJ has had a lot to say on this issue.
It’s bc of the gun laws in Chicago is why it’s always brought upI don't ever understand this strange "point" that people make. Violence in Chicago is covered on an hourly basis. Google it and 1,000 articles come up. So bizarre. Gun violence is a serious issue in this country. There's outrage all. The. Time.
And explain you're reasoning further if you don't mind. What are you trying to say? Black people kill each other quite often in certain cities so therefore when a police officer is the one that pulls the trigger it's really not that big of a deal?
Intertwined. You’re right. I hate it.Yep, good point, I'll just leave this thread now. Thanks for letting this thread to stay around on the Bunker with semi civil discussion especially now that politics and sports have been intertwined in 2020.
FTR I just researched this further, you are correct, I was wrong. The officer asked him to not grab his gun after he began firing not before. I only read the officers statement when I made that first post, which conflicted with video evidence.You stated it as fact. To pretend that one jury knows more than the lead investigator AND another jury is being deep in the rice fields. Lol. You’re a joke.
So does Gil Collar and Justine Dammond or does your faux outrage only apply to white cops killing blacks and not vice versa?Philando Castille and Breonna Taylor say hi
Herschel and Julie are special people to me. They have done so many wonderful things for me, including paying for my trip to Colombia for New Year’s. I could never repay them in a zillion years. So grateful for their friendship.
Come to the Platinum Board and me, @Boisgreat or @AuburnSmith can should you some tricks that will speed up the process.Banned @tugmac and deleted six posts referencing his dumb political shit. It takes a little bit of time to do that, boss.
This is sadly true. Unarmed white people get shot as well, but it never becomes a major news story.For the last five years, the police have fatally shot about 1,000 civilians annually, the vast majority of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. Black people account for about 23% of those shot and killed by police; they are about 13% of the U.S. population.
As of the June 22 update, the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings showed 14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019. The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began.
#Facts
Please leave this thread, no one wants you here.
Whitlock's got an agenda juzt az James duz. I like WHITLOCK and agree wit hiz azz a lot.Did you read Jason Whitlock's latest article and the things James said on twitter without waiting for more facts to be revealed? That's his biggest issue, he wants to push a narrative of fear and doesn't care about the facts or the judicial process to play out. His twitter followers believe what he says and in turn burn down businesses and cities without waiting for more information to come out via an investigation. He needs to understand that with his platform he has a responsibility to not spray BS anecdotes and wait for the legal process to play out before being judge jury and executioner based off a 20 second twitter clip on a cell phone.
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Gun violence is NOT a serious issue in this country. Only 36,000 people are killed by a gun each year. 22,000 of those are suicides. That leaves a measly 14,000 gun Homicides a year out of a population of 328,000,000+. That is .004% of the population which is as close to zero as possible. Gun violence outside of a very few hot spots is virtually non-existent in this great vast country.I don't ever understand this strange "point" that people make. Violence in Chicago is covered on an hourly basis. Google it and 1,000 articles come up. So bizarre. Gun violence is a serious issue in this country. There's outrage all. The. Time.
And explain you're reasoning further if you don't mind. What are you trying to say? Black people kill each other quite often in certain cities so therefore when a police officer is the one that pulls the trigger it's really not that big of a deal?
Yep...if that had happened none of this would going on...resist and bad things will happen. But, nobody in the media is saying that...
Tweet of the year IMO. This is the kind of change that needs to take place. I'd venture a guess that about 99% of Law Enforcement interactions with any citizen ends without being shot because they comply with the officers demands. He also talks about the %1(bad apples) that if a citizen complies, regardless of color, they need to be treated with respect. If you don't agree with the commands of the officers, wait until that exchange is over with and then fight it in court/report to incident. Having an Open hand not a closed fist would go a long way towards mending the two sides. I know Dear Diary, kinda...
Funny when you've been shitting on Lebron for speaking out before knowing the facts...FTR I just researched this further, you are correct, I was wrong. The officer asked him to not grab his gun after he began firing not before. I only read the officers statement when I made that first post, which conflicted with video evidence.
But...important question, very sad what happened to Brieauna Taylor but was it done because she was black and the cops hated black people or was it a bad, bad mistake. If the cops intended to kill her simply because she was black that would be racism...but it was not. Do people really think this kind of stuff only happens to to black people by only white cops? No black cop has ever shot a white person?This would fall under the %1/bad apples as long as the court process plays out with what we know in that case, currently, Correct? I do agree that more training and MORE FUNDING for Law Enforcement would help address this issue though.
Unless it's a no knock raid at the wrong house and you end up dead at the hands of militarized police for NO GOOD REASON
1) End Qualified Immunity
2) Require Body Cams
3) Stop Enforcing Victimless Crimes
4) End No-Knock Raids
5) Stop Militarizing Police
6) Implement Bail Reform
7) End Civil Asset Forfeiture
8) End Mandatory Police Unions
9) Require Cops to Obtain Individual Liability Insurance
If you’d said this in colonial America, you’d be ... very unpopular. It’s strange how things turn around over time and some things don’t.Yep...if that had happened none of this would going on...resist and bad things will happen. But, nobody in the media is saying that...
I don't care if you are black, white, green, blue, or red...if you resist and do not do as a police officer says and especially if you reach for a weapon bad things are going to happen. The cop has a family too and wants to go home to them as well. Cooperate, do not resist and things will be ok.Your default opinion is that African Americans should be shot if it is deemed necessary. No further justification required. Meanwhile the bodies pile up.
Ever heard the phrase "apples and oranges". So your saying we need a revolution because of what everybody is saying is "police brutality". Trust me I question and want to limit our government all the time about many things. But to compare these events to the colonies rebelling against a tyrant king is silly. Again, please tell me these bad things happened to these guys simply because they were black and the police officer hated black people. Please tell me that a white person has never been shot by police in the same type scenarios that has our nation in an uproar. My Father taught me...it's not so much about not being at the wrong place at the wrong time to stay out of trouble, it's more about being at the right place at the right time.If you’d said this in colonial America, you’d be ... very unpopular. It’s strange how things turn around over time and some things don’t.
DON’T QUESTION THE REDCOATS!
Better yet why don’t you become a cop and get back to us in a year.?
Tweet of the year IMO. This is the kind of change that needs to take place. I'd venture a guess that about 99% of Law Enforcement interactions with any citizen ends without being shot because they comply with the officers demands. He also talks about the %1(bad apples) that if a citizen complies, regardless of color, they need to be treated with respect. If you don't agree with the commands of the officers, wait until that exchange is over with and then fight it in court/report to incident. Having an Open hand not a closed fist would go a long way towards mending the two sides. I know Dear Diary, kinda...
Unless it's a no knock raid at the wrong house and you end up dead at the hands of militarized police for NO GOOD REASON
1) End Qualified Immunity
2) Require Body Cams
3) Stop Enforcing Victimless Crimes
4) End No-Knock Raids
5) Stop Militarizing Police
6) Implement Bail Reform
7) End Civil Asset Forfeiture
8) End Mandatory Police Unions
9) Require Cops to Obtain Individual Liability Insurance
I hope as judge you would follow the law whether you thought it was horseschit or not.I'm not cop material because I couldn't enforce rules of law that are unconstititional. I wouldn't want to be that kind of person that agrees to do what these folks are asked to do these days. I'd be more interested in being a judge and holding more folks accountable AND throwing some of this horseschit out of court.
Unless it's a no knock raid at the wrong house and you end up dead at the hands of militarized police for NO GOOD REASON
1) End Qualified Immunity
2) Require Body Cams
3) Stop Enforcing Victimless Crimes
4) End No-Knock Raids
5) Stop Militarizing Police
6) Implement Bail Reform
7) End Civil Asset Forfeiture
8) End Mandatory Police Unions
9) Require Cops to Obtain Individual Liability Insurance
I hope as judge you would follow the law whether you thought it was horseschit or not.
I hope as judge you would follow the law whether you thought it was horseschit or not.
Needz to be anutha wun DAWG"
Can I write you in for president?
There is a lot to agree with here and it’s clear that you’ve thought about the issue more than most. But I believe 1, 3, 7, and 9 are bad ideas.
Qualified immunity is necessary not just for officers but for nurses and doctors etc. Abolishing it would likely have no quantifiable effect on police shootings, and the defense likely is unavailable in the cases people most talk about anyways. I can discuss this in great detail, with specific examples of why qualified immunity is necessary for a functioning government, but If you want that I’d suggest you start a thread on the politics board, where this is probably going.
Not enforcing victimless crimes is too vague to be meaningful. If you don’t want a crime enforced, the legislature should amend the criminal statutes to decriminalize the behavior. DUI’s for example are victimless crimes, until they’re not.
Civil asset forfeiture is important for at least certain crimes for deterrence purposes, which people don’t think about. For example, why do you want Bernie Madoff to keep his assets used in defrauding billions from average people? I don’t oppose changing civil forfeiture rules but you should use a scalpel not an axe.
Requiring individual insurance for officers is a bad idea because the costs will not be reasonable for many given their pay, and this would be particularly true if your other suggestions are adopted. In addition, with the broadened understanding of vicarious liability in most jurisdictions, it’s unnecessary.
Finally, “militarizing police“ is a thorny issue. The devil is in the details. Patrol officers should not be “militarized” and generally they are not or only a select few are. And I think SWAT style units are overused and/or misused and/or in the worst instances out of control cowboys. But there is a need for more than a sidearm and shotgun in some instances. For a famous example, look at the North Hollywood shootout. This is another area where a scalpel rather than an axe should be used.
Disrespect of authority in general has become a huge issue. Kids aren't taught to respect people (elders, teachers, police, etc...), and they grow up to be adults who respect no one. People don't like to be told what to do. Hell, I don't like being told what to do. But my parents taught me how to play the game. I know who I can tell to GFY, and I know who I can't. Teachers were always on the "no GFY list", as were police. Everyone else was apt to fall into the GFY list.Needz to be anutha wun DAWG"
TEEECH BLACK AND WHITE PEEPEL NOT TO RESIST ARREST!!!!
We got PLENTY a problems rite now, but resisting arrezt iz beeecoming a HUGE ISSUE.