ABC News: no sign of increases in any state that reopened

[Archer52]

No one is talking about Covid anymore. We’ve moved on to race riots.

As much as our media cycle and culture sucks, at least it will latch onto something new every so often and forget about the recent past.

 

[Hornacious]

Pandemic bros don’t care about older people or those with health issues.

Wrong

They should stay home.

Don't put that lie on me. Not today Satan.

 

[Stumpfan]

No one is talking about Covid anymore. We’ve moved on to race riots.

As much as our media cycle and culture sucks, at least it will latch onto something new every so often and forget about the recent past.

Lol. Give it the weekend. Covid will remain the top story.

 

[Hornacious]

WTF are you talking about? Lol

Can you not read? I can’t comprehend it for you.

 

[Jim in Scranton]

100,000+ dead

 

[Stumpfan]

Wrong

They should stay home.

Don't put that lie on me. Not today Satan.

Lol. You’re devaluing their lives with the flu statement.

 

[Stumpfan]

Can you not read? I can’t comprehend it for you.

It doesn’t matter if it got here in Dec or January. 100,000 are dead.

 

[Hornacious]

Lol. You’re devaluing their lives with the flu statement.

How so? Acknowledging the true facts of this thing is the first step in understanding how it works.

 

[Stumpfan]

How so? Acknowledging the true facts of this thing is the first step in understanding how it works.

There is no known mortality rate for Covid much less broken down for age. Also, it wasn’t allowed to spread like the flu is. All we know is overall rate is most likely at least 5 times that of the flu.

 

[Hornacious]

There is no known mortality rate for Covid much less broken down for age. Also, it wasn’t allowed to spread like the flu is. All we know is overall rate is most likely at least 5 times that of the flu.

You are one of the dumbest mother ****ers I know.

 

[Jim in Scranton]

There is no known mortality rate for Covid much less broken down for age. Also, it wasn’t allowed to spread like the flu is. All we know is overall rate is most likely at least 5 times that of the flu.

Holy hell at this post. This is gold.

 

[AgainstTheSpread]

I’m pretty sure you said on multiple occasions that Kemp and DeSantis were morons with their policies and things are going terribly for their states.

Brian Kemp is an absolute moron.

 

[Hornacious]

Uh oh he’s getting frustrated @Stumpfan

Not really. Derp.

 

[au4life_rz]

Finally some honest reporting.

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This COULD be great news, however, you can't just drop it as automatic truth just because it supports your chosen belief as to how we should manage the threat.

1. Is the virus less contagious than it originally was?
2. Are we building "herd" immunity to this thing?
3. Does "opening back up" automatically mean that people have returned to their lives as usual???

I've pointed this out before when folks were touting Sweden as automatic "proof" that "staying open" was the best approach. Having that designation does nothing to change people's actual behavior. If people are still staying at home, working from home, washing hands like crazy and not touching their faces etc., (i.e. no essential changes from "sheltering-in-place"), then of course, we shouldn't expect a drastic rise. Things like this can be lost on the folks that drop these articles. Hopefully, there will be hard evidence and we can continue opening back up and getting the economy going, but don't mistake that for getting back to normal. If we go back to normal in earnest, there's only a couple of things that should drop the rates. The virus is somehow less contagious, or we're building significant immunity, right? Or, all of our new sanitary and mask wearing behaviors are reducing infection etc., correct?

 

[Stumpfan]

You are one of the dumbest mother ****ers I know.

 

[Stumpfan]

Holy hell at this post. This is gold.

Gold truth, son.

 

[Hornacious]

There is no known mortality rate for Covid much less broken down for age. Also, it wasn’t allowed to spread like the flu is. All we know is overall rate is most likely at least 5 times that of the flu.

Holy hell at this post. This is gold.

Stump is a lying science denier.

 

[Stumpfan]

Stump is a lying science denier.

Pandemic patriots like you and jim and fig calling anybody science deniers is hilarious.

 

[Hornacious]

Pandemic patriots like you and jim and fig calling anybody science deniers is hilarious.

You said there is no known mortality rate. That is denying science.

 

[Tiger_Style]

Stump is a lying science denier.

It is like everything he reads for the first time, when he finishes he looks up and out loud says, "Time to repeat this forever on the internet as science almost never ever ever changes or evolves with more data. Come get some, Bunker."

There are very logical arguments to make that by the time the lock down started this had spread like wildfire throughout the U.S. Pretty sure Stump was very anti the thought of COVID got here well before March, and now it is proven it was here in December.

Also, as nursing homes that are >50% of US deaths while only .6% of the population, the lock down really has no impact on their decimation.

 

[Stumpfan]

You said there is no known mortality rate. That is denying science.

There isn’t. We won’t know what it will be until we can estimate how many have had it in the US.

 

[Stumpfan]

It is like everything he reads for the first time, when he finishes he looks up and out loud says, "Time to repeat this forever on the internet as science almost never ever ever changes or evolves with more data. Come get some, Bunker."

There are very logical arguments to make that by the time the lock down started this had spread like wildfire throughout the U.S. Pretty sure Stump was very anti the thought of COVID got here well before March, and now it is proven it was here in December.

Also, as nursing homes that are >50% of US deaths while only .6% of the population, the lock down really has no impact on their decimation.

Hahahahaha!!!! All the antibody tests have shown it hasn’t spread like wildfire. Even in NY, the study showed 7% had it outside of nyc which is the epicenter. My God, man. Catch up.

 

[Hornacious]

There isn’t. We won’t know what it will be until we can estimate how many have had it in the US.

Then how do you KNOW it is 5 times more deadly than the flu?

 

[Stumpfan]

Then how do you KNOW it is 5 times more deadly than the flu?

That is the estimate based on it going thru other countries. .08% to .1% compared to .4% to 1%.

 

[Hornacious]

That is the estimate based on it going thru other countries. .08% to .1% compared to .4% to 1%.

The CDC disagrees with what you claim to KNOW.

 

[Stumpfan]

The CDC disagrees with what you claim to KNOW.

No, they don’t.

 

[Hornacious]

No, they don’t.

.26 and falling. Liar.

 

[anon_xdkqbpnrbtnct]

You gotta wait 2 more weeks guys

 

[Lynyrd Skynyrd]

Pandemic bros don’t care about older people or those with health issues.

Old folks don’t need to be at Red Rocks to see WSP which got cancelled because of this bull shit
That’s really all that matters

 

[Stumpfan]

.26 and falling. Liar.

lol. Wut?

 

[rkspeck33]

The CDC's New 'Best Estimate' Implies a COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate Below 0.3%

 

[rkspeck33]

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the current "best estimate" for the fatality rate among Americans with COVID-19 symptoms is 0.4 percent. The CDC also estimates that 35 percent of people infected by the COVID-19 virus never develop symptoms.

 

[Hornacious]

lol. Wut?

Derp.

 

[rkspeck33]

On the Flip side:

New CDC estimates of coronavirus death rates look suspiciously low and present almost no data to back them up, say public health experts who are concerned that the agency is buckling under political pressure to restart the economy.

A week ago, as the US began to reopen, the CDC put out five scenarios for how the coronavirus crisis could play out across the country. This “pandemic planning” document is being used throughout the federal government and is meant to help public officials make decisions about when and how to reopen, according to the CDC.

 

[rkspeck33]

More to argue about:

In addition to providing various rates of hospitalizations and infections, the CDC gave new estimates of the total fatality rate of the virus, ranging from about 0.1% (its least deadly scenario) to 0.8% (its deadliest scenario). The agency also cited a “best estimate” of 0.26%.

While no one yet knows the coronavirus’s actual death rate, the agency’s range of possible rates seemed alarmingly low to many epidemiologists, compared to existing data in places both inside and outside the US. For instance, estimates of New York City’s total death rate, 0.86% to 0.93%, are even higher than the CDC’s worst-case scenario. Estimates from countries like Spain and Italy are also higher, ranging from 1.1% to 1.3%

 

[Stumpfan]

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the current "best estimate" for the fatality rate among Americans with COVID-19 symptoms is 0.4 percent. The CDC also estimates that 35 percent of people infected by the COVID-19 virus never develop symptoms.

And I said flu was .08% to .1%. That’s 4-5 times more deadly. Also, this is an early estimate.

 

[Jim in Scranton]

Gold truth, son.

Which part. Your first or last sentence?

 

[Tiger_Style]

Hahahahaha!!!! All the antibody tests have shown it hasn’t spread like wildfire. Even in NY, the study showed 7% had it outside of nyc which is the epicenter. My God, man. Catch up.

I keep up, and actually evaluate and consider what I read. Also, you continue to think everyone who is exposed to a virus gets it. Which is LOL.

Multiple studies coming in (https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3) are suggesting 40 to 60% of the population may have immunity to COVID due to exposures to the common cold.

The inaccuracies of the antibody tests continue to be a big issue:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-wa...s-antibody-test-results-are-wrong-2020-05-27/

 

[Stumpfan]

More to argue about:

In addition to providing various rates of hospitalizations and infections, the CDC gave new estimates of the total fatality rate of the virus, ranging from about 0.1% (its least deadly scenario) to 0.8% (its deadliest scenario). The agency also cited a “best estimate” of 0.26%.

While no one yet knows the coronavirus’s actual death rate, the agency’s range of possible rates seemed alarmingly low to many epidemiologists, compared to existing data in places both inside and outside the US. For instance, estimates of New York City’s total death rate, 0.86% to 0.93%, are even higher than the CDC’s worst-case scenario. Estimates from countries like Spain and Italy are also higher, ranging from 1.1% to 1.3%

Lol. Big difference between .1 and .8. That means they have no idea right now.

 

[Stumpfan]

I keep up, and actually evaluate and consider what I read. Also, you continue to think everyone who is exposed to a virus gets it. Which is LOL.

Multiple studies coming in (https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3) are suggesting 40 to 60% of the population may have immunity to COVID due to exposures to the common cold.

The inaccuracies of the antibody tests continue to be a big issue:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-wa...s-antibody-test-results-are-wrong-2020-05-27/

Most are false positive, not false negative.