I’m tanning e’ry day so they’ll leave me be....
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- Thread starter Bassman
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I thought he was the Rivals dude we all hate? Or is it Sonny and Cher’s child with the identity crisis?
You seriously need medication.
@Kellerdog will tell you your account is exactly wrong.
It's a lawless shit-fest, and every objective observer recognizes that fact.
The only reason anyone would carry water for those dirt-bags, is to stir people up on a forum. Which is a weird and degenerate way for a grown-up to express himself. Let alone an alleged professional.
That poser wouldn't let his wife or daughter go in there, and there is no way his candy ass would go within 10 blocks of that mess.
I’m reasonable enough to take in any information that I can and formulate an opinion. I haven’t once told @Bassman that he was lying or that his friend wasn’t telling him the truth. I don’t think that every person in Seattle is scared for their lives. I’m also reasonable enough to not suggest that the US media is trying to paint a picture worse than reality?
Do you believe that business owners in the “zone” have been asked to pay $500 for protection? Is that made up?
Do you think there are armed guards at the blockades?
Do you believe people are randomly being frisked or Do you believe a man with a camera was escorted out of the area on Friday with a man harassing him the entire way with “what don’t matter is this Mo***r Fu***r”?
Do you believe the Breitbart painted those buildings and sidewalks?
Do you believe police officers asked permission to go into the precinct building?
If you think these things have happened, and are good with that, how much further can it go? How many blocks should they be allowed to control? In how many cities will this be ok? If your home or business were located in the “zone”, would it still be ok?
I’ll ask you again, since you chose not to answer, do you think there may be a landing spot between mob rule and shooting everyone? I mean, since we’re asking about being reasonable.
I haven't seen any credible evidence of businesses being shaken down for money.
I'm not sure about the armed guards, but that wouldn't change my opinion.
I don't care about the graffiti.
I won't engage your slippery slope argument.
You've only seen the bad stuff online because that's what drives clicks and views. You just made a point against yourself.
They locked MLK in jail. They fire-bombed his house. That was likely within your lifetime. I'm sorry that the fight for racial equality is taking such a toll on you.
I have a niece and nephew that are right in the middle of this shit. They are scared to death. They haven’t left their apartment in days. They are home grown Libkids, but really good people. If I have to go there, I will. This ain’t gonna end well.
Against myself? I’m sorry, I’m not playing whatever game it is you think is being played.
Armed guards around blockades of city streets don’t “change your mind” and “you don’t care” about the graffiti on property owned by people that have absolutely nothing to do with police brutality. That pretty much says it all.
I noticed you didn’t mention the stopping and frisking of citizens or determining who is welcome there or not, but that’s cool. The things that don’t bother you say enough.
I wonder if the graffiti would bother you if it were your store? I wonder if the armed guards would “change your opinion” If you were subject to them.
yeah, I wouldn’t engage in a real conversation either. It’s easier just to continue the pissing contest with the guys on the far right. That always accomplished a lot.
I hope you have a great week.
@DaWarEagleKine are you reasonable enough to listen to accounts from actual residents living in the immediate area?
SHE and he are definitely pussies. I’m not though. I’d love for you to speak like this to me in person. As a matter of fact, I’ll tell yore jackass self where, and when. Preferably in front of everyone on this board....
I get that they're not doing things your way, Rob. I probably wouldn't have gone with their strategy, if I were running things; but, at the end of the day, I see you on this board complaining a lot more about the fact that people are protesting the wrong way than I do complaining about the systemic racism that led them to protest in the first place. If the media that you're consuming has you convinced that Seattle is the story, then you're falling for sleight of hand.
If that’s what you're seeing then you aren’t paying very close attention or your seeing what you want to see. You may want to ask around or do a bit of research before you start slinging silly accusations.
I’ve been in multiple long and intense discussions/arguments about the very real systemic racism that exists in this country. I’ve made impassioned arguments supporting protests and civil disobedience. I’ve been called a “racist” by a poster here because I believe that there is a difference in the opportunities available to an average black man and a white man in the US.
If you don’t want to answer questions and have a real discussion, that’s fine, but save your accusatory rhetoric for someone with whom it may produce your desired effect. It’s wasted on me and makes you look even more silly.
As I said, I hope you have a great week.
Seattle is definitely part of the story because they're attempting to pioneer a cooperative without organized law enforcement. I get why you don't want it to be part of the story, but you have to understand you saying you "wouldn't have gone with their strategy" is a monster indictment on the childishness of their proposed solution.
You simply don't stray from your party line any further than that, ever.
Sure I do. I just think you fail to grasp what my party line is.
Also, whether I would have done something is not necessarily an indictment on anything, it just means that I have had different experiences that would have led me to a different conclusion re: my protest plan. For example, if I was black in the 60s, I wouldn't have thought to do sit-ins at white only lunch counters. That's not an indictment of the idea, though.
Finally, while we're talking about party lines, when was the last time you strayed from yours?
Acknowledging white privilege, while laudible, is really the bare minimum we owe our black brothers and sisters. Nevertheless, I'm glad that you're calling people out where you can.
Also, you're right, we're probably talking (typing) past each other at this point, so it's probably best for us to just disengage.
Yeah, you have no idea what steps I’ve taken in my life and in my spheres of influence to affect change. You have no idea that those efforts have been gong on for decades. That the started when I was in high school. I’m not a “I've got black friends” guy. I act on the things about which I hold convictions.
Just like I wasn’t interested in your empty accusations, I’m not interested in your backhanded compliments.
If we are at a place where we can’t be honest. Where we can’t say there is a deep and serious issue that we have to work together to fix, to heal, and also say, but this particular situation is wrong and not part of the healing or fixing, then we will never get anything done.
Truth is truth. Racism hurt us all. It weakens who we are as a people. It spits in the face of a Creator who created each and every one of us in His image. Allowing anarchy to go unchecked isn’t part of the solution. It contributes to the problem.
I’m not talking past you. I’m trying to be as honest as I can possibly be and engage people who may see the world through a different lens, in real conversation.
