There's no doubt we have people ITT who think the National Guard at Kent State was right to open fire on those students who had the audacity to refuse to disperse.
Huntsville PD says they tear gassed a peaceful crowd as a "precaution"...
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Ask it this way? Would I have shot peaceful protestors with rubber bullets last night and “used chemical weapons on a 3 year old girl?” Preferably not lol.
Do I support what HSV did last night? Absolutely if that’s what it took.
1. I feel like they probably are more qualified at handling crowd control than I am.
2. I like that they actually had a PLAN for this (they implemented same plan Monday, that should’ve been a strong hint)
3. I watched Bham get WRECKED on live stream Sunday night for 2hrs before I saw the first Bham police car show up. Literally no authorities walking around letting trash destroy the city. I’m cool with that NOT happening in my town.
Oh no, they took up street..... Never mind it's peaceful.
Oh no, they took up a block... Never mind it's peaceful.
Oh no, they took up a store.... Never mind it's peaceful.
Oh no, they torched my house... Where's the effing police !!
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And for every person you start to slap zip ties on, there are 10 enticers with cell phones recording as that person being detained is screaming bloody murder “ouch” and “omg what are you doing to me” and so forth.
or.... release some non lethal gas that will agitate them and motivate them to move along.
Whoa, this dissolved quickly! Let me interject a few things
1) I've received word high up from a LEA that several cache of material intended to cause harm was stashed around the area. This includes nets, acid, weapons, and bricks.
2) I've also confirmed the ALEA vehicles were the primary things that were attacked in the events.
3) The NAACP paid for the event security. Was worried about agitators and organizers tried to breakup the crowd peacefully afterwards.
Also, @DM8 I can't locate that 7min video you posted, I was trying to find it but cant...
1) I've received word high up from a LEA that several cache of material intended to cause harm was stashed around the area. This includes nets, acid, weapons, and bricks.
2) I've also confirmed the ALEA vehicles were the primary things that were attacked in the events.
3) The NAACP paid for the event security. Was worried about agitators and organizers tried to breakup the crowd peacefully afterwards.
Also, @DM8 I can't locate that 7min video you posted, I was trying to find it but cant...
not you can use less lethal force measures your city leaders approve of.
Again, with the mind reading. You could make a lot of money from cities paying you to read the minds of protestors. Lol
Sorry man, not trying to troll here. What you wrote reads word for word how people defended using fire hoses, dogs and gas on civil rights demonstrators to "preserve order" during the 1960s.
Do you really not see that using these tactics will only lead to more protests and prompt some people to give up on being peaceful? People across the country see people chanting peacefully getting gassed or shot with rubber bullets and that will absolutely lead more people to start destroying property out of anger and frustration. I don't agree with that which is one of the main reasons I think this should be condemned.
You just quoted an article so how did people not hear about it? Derp.
you have made that point clear. We get it. Just saying that these protests leading to rioting and looting also don’t get us any closer to a meaningful discussion. So if you want to give Antifa, BLM and the KKK your street address so they can bring that shit your way I am sure they will he happy to head on over.
Under your logic, the police are justified in gassing or firing rubber bullets on any demonstration. What would your reaction have been if Michigan's governor had gassed the armed shutdown protesters in their capital? Every one of those guys had an assault rifle so they clearly posed a much larger threat than the unarmed protesters in Huntsville who were chanting "hands up, don't shoot" as the police opened fire.
WTF? It's happening all over the country in cities run by libs. The thugs are causing destruction and death, and the lib run cities do NOTHING. That only encourages them to continue.
If a bully keeps effing with you and you do nothing, he will keep on. If you punch his lights out, he will move on to someone less soft. Same with the thugs. Stop this shit at the first POSSIBILITY of trouble, and none of this matters. All these thugs see their fellow thugs get away with murder on TV, so they want to join in on the fun. 90% of them couldn't even tell you the name of the guy killed in MN.
I am attempting to have a meaningful discussion. I think it's a very easy line to draw that the police should not use violence on peaceful protesters under any circumstance. If everyone agreed on that point, the protests would come to an end a lot sooner.
Nationwide on Tuesday night had the biggest crowds to that date. No tear gas. Lowest violence and property destruction of the week. Explain that, mind reader. Other countries learned this.
"All you gotta do is tell them your going to bring the dogs. Look at em run.I want to see the dogs work."
"As I have said on numerous occasions, we are not going to stand for this in Birmingham. And if necessary we will fill the jail full and we don't care whose toes we step on. I am saying now to these meddlers from out of our city the best thing for them to do is stay out if they don't want to get slapped in jail. Our people of Birmingham are a peaceful people and we never have any trouble here unless some people come into our city looking for trouble. And I've never seen anyone yet look for trouble who wasn't able to find it”
As a liberal I’d gas them too
Thank you for having the courage to come out and say what jackson and others have waffled around ITT. You have no problem with Bull Connor and others who used gas and other "non lethal" means on Civil Rights demonstrators. It is honestly amazing that is still a commonly held view by some in our country. Peaceful civil disobedience should never be met with violence.
I hope you can understand why no one takes you seriously on any issue related to civil rights after you compared black people to monkeys.
Tear gas? Do any of you geniuses know the
nice job by the cops. They told them their protest permit had expired. They told them to leave, which many law biding citizens did leave. Then 90 minutes later the gassed them to make the others leave.
If you can’t abide by the laws then you suffer the consequences of breaking the law.
We have a long history of people engaging in peaceful civil disobedience in our country. The Civil Rights protesters never had permits for their marches in Birmingham and chose to march anyway and refused to disperse when ordered to do so by the police. Do you agree that they deserved to be gassed just like the protesters in Huntsville?
I would have had a huge problem with it because they didn't cause ANY property damage. They didn't steal one damn thing. They didn't assault any police officers. There is ZERO history of any of them doing anything illegal. But .... the thugs that have been rioting over the last week have done all those things. So cities are right to assume that will occur in there cities. Protest legally. Leave when time is up. No one gets hurt. Easy peazy.
Good lourde, this is embarrassing. Run along before you find a way to be wrong about anything else.
Not leaving when the cops tell you to leave because your protest permit had expired over an hour ago justifies getting gassed. It’s non lethal and it obviously works. Abide by the laws. It’s simple.
Time is up? The Michigan capital protesters had no permit. They were all armed and screaming at police officers. Thank you for making it clear you are the type of hypocrite who thinks civil rights protesters chanting "hands up, don't shoot" should be gassed and shot with rubber bullets while this dude is a patriot exercising his sacred right to free speech.
Lol. I’m shocked you have this view. Shocked! I’m sure if a governor would have gassed the haircut bro protestors, you would’ve felt the same. Lol
Thank you for confirming you are another supporter of Bull Connor's tactics. We need to get a list of everyone ITT who thinks gassing civil rights protesters who refused to disperse in the 1960s was fully justified.
The hypocrisy on display is amazing. If Governor Whitmer had ordered tear gas deployed in the Michigan state capital to disperse the armed crowd who were there without a permit, the same people ITT who say protesting without a permit justifies gassing a peaceful crowd would have lost their minds.
Actually they are doing something: they are beginning to heed the calls to defund the police. LA is making a large police budget cut per Forbes; and other will follow. It is ironical-most 911 calls come from black and poor neighborhoods, so.....who is going to suffer most if police are cut?
Yes and these geniuses don’t realize that when the city loses money taxes go up for everybody. And you will still have bad cops in every city. Just like you have bad criminals in every city. But if you try to abide by the law you don’t have to deal with bad cops. Bad criminals are equal opportunity sorry can’t help you there. Just stay away from suspect areas and mind your business.
Not to mention, I’ve read several lists of “demands”
from protestors and many of them include a post secondary education requirement for police, along with higher salaries to attract better candidates. If you defund the police, these things will not be possible. Where do you think that additional money will come from? You literally can’t have it both ways.
Honestly, I don't care. I hope those cities fall into a friggin war zone. It will take that for the "people" rise up and demand action from the PC liberal city leaders or elect conservative law and order leaders. Otherwise, they get what they elected. Have fun.
You are trying to armchair QB this. I got a call today from the special events coordinator at Cotton Row, we have an event planned there tomorrow night. She said that fortunately the LEA’s handled the situation before it erupted. When they got to work this morning they did find weapons, bricks, and other items on their patio. Cotton Row is across the street from the courthouse. I think we saw the best possible outcome despite what someone sitting behind a computer screen thinks.
