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Yes, there are lots of studies and say lots of things. You guys all pull from the same pool of selective 'facts.' There aren't any properly done, controlled clinical studies that are repeatable. Those who understand the difference know that the studies touted are at best inconclusive, inconsistent, and do not demonstrate that ivermectin actually works. There are far better treatments out there including the vaccines when prevent most infections to begin with and greatly lessen the symptoms for the overwhelming majority who do get a rare breakthrough case. The monoclonal antibodies are a clear and proven winner too. The new anti-viral from Pfizer looks like a winner. Ivermectin, not so much.

But like I say, as long as you aren't raiding the local Tractor Supply for horse dewormer and you take the proper dosage for humans of the actual stuff made for humans, you aren't going to hurt anything. And you should be parasite-free to boot so, bonus. But in terms of actually affecting the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you may as well be taking M&Ms.
We just flushed out Dr. Fauci’s burner account…
 
^^^^^Doesn't respect the rights of others unless they agree with him^^^^^^

People who spread lies on either side of the debate are wrong. Dude gave you his story, that's it nothing more. But calling his prescription from a Doctor Horse pills is horse shit. There are lots of drugs that are used for humans and animals. And then to follow it up with making fun of him for his religion is just trashy. Let people worship whatever god they want to.
we live in a age where scientific thought is dead. no one is allowed to contradict government orthodoxy. There are hundreds of thousands of doctors worldwide prescribing ivermectin as well as other off label drugs. vitamins and anything to strengthen your immune system are proven effective. Vaccines are proven to have some effect. the new covid pill uses the same idea as ivermectin . All these things are true but those on both sides of the political spectrum are pushing agendas. personally I am an all of the above guy, what the hell I will try them all. As for masks I aint pretending they make a hill of beans difference as they are worn in the world today. ie never remove , never touch with hands , only use once and replace after removing
 
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Yes, there are lots of studies and say lots of things. You guys all pull from the same pool of selective 'facts.' There aren't any properly done, controlled clinical studies that are repeatable. Those who understand the difference know that the studies touted are at best inconclusive, inconsistent, and do not demonstrate that ivermectin actually works. There are far better treatments out there including the vaccines when prevent most infections to begin with and greatly lessen the symptoms for the overwhelming majority who do get a rare breakthrough case. The monoclonal antibodies are a clear and proven winner too. The new anti-viral from Pfizer looks like a winner. Ivermectin, not so much.

But like I say, as long as you aren't raiding the local Tractor Supply for horse dewormer and you take the proper dosage for humans of the actual stuff made for humans, you aren't going to hurt anything. And you should be parasite-free to boot so, bonus. But in terms of actually affecting the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you may as well be taking M&Ms.
This may well be true but it isnt worth getting bent over . That said you should try all means to protect yourself including vaccines. ps one thing that cracks me up. we are told ad nauseum not to take to take to much antibiotics because resistant strains will develop and mutations cause that. well doesnt the same hold true for viruses
 
we live in a age where scientific thought is dead. no one is allowed to contradict government orthodoxy. There are hundreds of thousands of doctors worldwide prescribing ivermectin as well as other off label drugs. vitamins and anything to strengthen your immune system are proven effective. Vaccines are proven to have some effect. the new covid pill uses the same type meds as ivermectin .
Ivermectin doesn't strengthen your immune system and no, the new covid anti-viral pill from Pfizer does not have the "same type meds" as Ivermectin. Stop reading bullshit and repeating it elsewhere. It's embarrassing.

But nice job proving scientific thought is dead with a personal demonstration.
 
Ivermectin doesn't strengthen your immune system and no, the new covid anti-viral pill from Pfizer does not have the "same type meds" as Ivermectin. Stop reading bullshit and repeating it elsewhere. It's embarrassing.

But nice job proving scientific thought is dead with a personal demonstration.
who said ivermectin strengthens immune system I mentioned vitamins
 
This may well be true but it isnt worth getting bent over . That said you should try all means to protect yourself including vaccines.
I'm not bent. I just don't let bullshit passing as science go unchallenged.

ps one thing that cracks me up. we are told ad nauseum not to take to take to much antibiotics because resistant strains will develop and mutations cause that. well doesnt the same hold true for viruses
Antibiotics and anti-virals aren't the same thing and don't work the same way for many of the same reasons bacteria and viruses aren't the same. It's an idiotic comparison.
 
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My wife and I hosted Thanksgiving for about 25 family members at our Auburn home close to campus. Traveling home to The Woodlands, TX on Monday after the Iron Bowl I noticed a slightly scratchy throat and the next day I had a slight headache and felt tired but worked daily and even golfed with clients that Thursday. Since I had no fever, I assumed I had simply contracted a cold as my niece had a pretty bad cold Thanksgiving week. I also suspected it could have been the stress of being in JHS personally witnessing the harsin Iron Bowl meltdown (harsin's 4th November meltdown). I had no fever just some fatigue and headaches for 5-7 days or so and I didn't even consider testing for china virus. However, last Friday my wife awakened with body aches and a low grade fever so she went to get tested and she tested positive for the china virus. I later in the day tested positive as well though I by then was symptom free. My wife followed our physician's orders and immediately visited a local clinic and received the monoclonal antibodies infusion. Additionally, she immediately took 12 Ivermectin tablets as thankfully we have an awesome physician whom is a strong proponent of Ivermectin so we had previously stockpiled over 150 Ivermectin tablets. My beautiful wife had a rough evening Friday after receiving the monoclonal antibodies but thankfully by Saturday morning she was feeling significantly better and had zero fever. By Sunday she was virtually symptom free and has improved daily since and thankfully already tested negative for the china virus today. We are both 60 years old but we both exercise, take copious amounts of Vitamins and Zinc daily and we are both very unvaccinated though now blessed with natural antibodies. I'm not a physician so do your own thing based upon your doctor's orders but in the event you and or your loved ones should get this fauchi/china virus... don't panic but do try to get the monoclonal antibodies ASAP and if possible, get some Ivermectin into your system. The results my wife realized from the monoclonal antibodies and the Ivermectin was nothing short of amazing and we thank God for his Amazing Grace and healing. If you haven't a physician to prescribe Ivermectin, my friends and family have visited PushHealth.com and said they paid a physician $65 and they called in prescriptions into a Walgreens, Kroger, etc.... you're welcome.

Stay Strong & Courageous and Merry CHRISTmas!
Most importantly want sec of the stadium did you infect?
 
You mentioned it in the same breath so I was making a distinction.
no I was trying to list all the kitchen sink treatments I could think of. And I did think ivermectin acted as a protein inhibitor like the Pfizer pill. I will edit to say it not same drug which is true
 
My wife and I hosted Thanksgiving for about 25 family members at our Auburn home close to campus. Traveling home to The Woodlands, TX on Monday after the Iron Bowl I noticed a slightly scratchy throat and the next day I had a slight headache and felt tired but worked daily and even golfed with clients that Thursday. Since I had no fever, I assumed I had simply contracted a cold as my niece had a pretty bad cold Thanksgiving week. I also suspected it could have been the stress of being in JHS personally witnessing the harsin Iron Bowl meltdown (harsin's 4th November meltdown). I had no fever just some fatigue and headaches for 5-7 days or so and I didn't even consider testing for china virus. However, last Friday my wife awakened with body aches and a low grade fever so she went to get tested and she tested positive for the china virus. I later in the day tested positive as well though I by then was symptom free. My wife followed our physician's orders and immediately visited a local clinic and received the monoclonal antibodies infusion. Additionally, she immediately took 12 Ivermectin tablets as thankfully we have an awesome physician whom is a strong proponent of Ivermectin so we had previously stockpiled over 150 Ivermectin tablets. My beautiful wife had a rough evening Friday after receiving the monoclonal antibodies but thankfully by Saturday morning she was feeling significantly better and had zero fever. By Sunday she was virtually symptom free and has improved daily since and thankfully already tested negative for the china virus today. We are both 60 years old but we both exercise, take copious amounts of Vitamins and Zinc daily and we are both very unvaccinated though now blessed with natural antibodies. I'm not a physician so do your own thing based upon your doctor's orders but in the event you and or your loved ones should get this fauchi/china virus... don't panic but do try to get the monoclonal antibodies ASAP and if possible, get some Ivermectin into your system. The results my wife realized from the monoclonal antibodies and the Ivermectin was nothing short of amazing and we thank God for his Amazing Grace and healing. If you haven't a physician to prescribe Ivermectin, my friends and family have visited PushHealth.com and said they paid a physician $65 and they called in prescriptions into a Walgreens, Kroger, etc.... you're welcome.

Stay Strong & Courageous and Merry CHRISTmas!
And now you have natural antibodies which is better than any vaccine and will last possibly forever. My family of 6 had the CV a few months ago. Ivermectin, Zinc, and vitamins did the trick.
 
I'm not bent. I just don't let bullshit passing as science go unchallenged.


Antibiotics and anti-virals aren't the same thing and don't work the same way for many of the same reasons bacteria and viruses aren't the same. It's an idiotic comparison.
honestly explain. by slowing the spread of the virus we are allowing it more time to mutate. we are disrupting the natural cycle. I understand one is a virus the other isnt . I understand one kills the organism the other triggers an immune response. antibiotics actually can weaken immune system. what I dont get is why you assume viruses dont mutate to avoid effects of vaccines
 
I am as pro vax as anyone, but will never understand how vaccinated people feel threatened by the unvaccinated.
I can think of a couple of reasons:

1. As good as the vaccines are (and the Pfizer and Moderna ones are excellent), like many other vaccines they aren't absolutely 100% effective at preventing infection. So when irresponsible people who'd rather believe Dr. Facebook and Nurse Youtube and take horse dewormer get infected and spread it to others, there's a chance of even getting a vaccinated person sick. Even if they survive it, it causes all sorts of inconveniences for others because of 10-14 day quarantine requirements at work and school. It's just a shitty and selfish way to live, particularly when it's based on lies and misinformation.

2. Some of the upset isn't about the vaccinated but about people's ignorance and self-centeredness causing it to continue to be spread prevalently in a community when there are vulnerable parts of the population who can't get vaccinated or who are so immunocompromised that even the vaccine can only help them so much.
 
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And now you have natural antibodies which is better than any vaccine and will last possibly forever. My family of 6 had the CV a few months ago. Ivermectin, Zinc, and vitamins did the trick.
To be fair you would all have gotten better anyway, you cant know your treatment helped
 
The antibodies work wonders.

unless something has changed, no one knows yet if ivermectin does anything beneficial for covid. I would love for a legit study to show its very beneficial.

nonetheless, get the Ab treatment. If taking ivermectin makes you feel better mentally then take it too.
Here check out this study that summarizes the basic studies on Ivermectin. It is an interesting read.

Here is the summary conclusion:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Article:
https://journals.lww.com/americanth...mectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
 
Yes, there are lots of studies and say lots of things. You guys all pull from the same pool of selective 'facts.' There aren't any properly done, controlled clinical studies that are repeatable. Those who understand the difference know that the studies touted are at best inconclusive, inconsistent, and do not demonstrate that ivermectin actually works. There are far better treatments out there including the vaccines when prevent most infections to begin with and greatly lessen the symptoms for the overwhelming majority who do get a rare breakthrough case. The monoclonal antibodies are a clear and proven winner too. The new anti-viral from Pfizer looks like a winner. Ivermectin, not so much.

But like I say, as long as you aren't raiding the local Tractor Supply for horse dewormer and you take the proper dosage for humans of the actual stuff made for humans, you aren't going to hurt anything. And you should be parasite-free to boot so, bonus. But in terms of actually affecting the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you may as well be taking M&Ms.
I am guessing you didn't read the medical article I posted. I haven't taken it but if you read the article then to assume it is not helpful is to deny the science at this point. But to be fair that is the biggest issue with COVID in general, minus all the deaths of course, people keep putting out BS. Even our scientist cant agree on a damn thing. I just wish they were all honest it would go a long way. And by honest its ok to say we think and this study showed.

To say it is as helpful as M&Ms is just intellectually dishonest.
 
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I can think of a couple of reasons:

1. As good as the vaccines are (and the Pfizer and Moderna ones are excellent), like many other vaccines they aren't absolutely 100% effective at preventing infection. So when irresponsible people who'd rather believe Dr. Facebook and Nurse Youtube and take horse dewormer get infected and spread it to others, there's a chance of even getting a vaccinated person sick. Even if they survive it, it causes all sorts of inconveniences for others because of 10-14 day quarantine requirements at work and school. It's just a shitty and selfish way to live, particularly when it's based on lies and misinformation.

2. Some of the upset isn't about the vaccinated but about people's ignorance and self-centeredness causing it to continue to be spread prevalently in a community when there are vulnerable parts of the population who can't get vaccinated or who are so immunocompromised that even the vaccine can only help them so much.
bull crap. I was with you till then. the vaccine doesnt come close to 100% keeping you from getting infected. The numbers may not be 50% . The chance of getting really sick from covid is almost zero vaccinated or not. I had the real vid early on the one with the cough. high fever etc. this new shit is watered down. I took the vaccine and the booster. Not once the entire time was I ever afraid of the damn thing. I never wear masks unless asked to in person I dont distance never did. I work in strangers houses ever day and did all along. I dont give a crap about someone else getting it. if they do its their fault. want to be well stay home and alone and wear your mask there. thats wear 85% of all infections occur. Its not when you die its how you live. god I hate cowards
 
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I am guessing you didn't read the medical article I posted. I haven't taken it but if you read the article then to assume it is not helpful is to deny the science at this point. But to be fair that is the biggest issue with COVID in general, minus all the deaths of course, people keep putting out BS. Even our scientist cant agree on a damn thing. I just wish they were all honest it would go a long way. And by honest its ok to say we think and this study showed.

To say it is as helpful as M&Ms is just intellectually dishonest.
he is just another political hack. i was trying but he started spewing the party line
 
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I can think of a couple of reasons:

1. As good as the vaccines are (and the Pfizer and Moderna ones are excellent), like many other vaccines they aren't absolutely 100% effective at preventing infection. So when irresponsible people who'd rather believe Dr. Facebook and Nurse Youtube and take horse dewormer get infected and spread it to others, there's a chance of even getting a vaccinated person sick. Even if they survive it, it causes all sorts of inconveniences for others because of 10-14 day quarantine requirements at work and school. It's just a shitty and selfish way to live, particularly when it's based on lies and misinformation.

2. Some of the upset isn't about the vaccinated but about people's ignorance and self-centeredness causing it to continue to be spread prevalently in a community when there are vulnerable parts of the population who can't get vaccinated or who are so immunocompromised that even the vaccine can only help them so much.
Yes this part about you above highlighted I agree with. Have some respect for others who don't think like you. I respect your desire to impose your will on me but that doesn't mean I accept it.
 
Yes this part about you above highlighted I agree with. Have some respect for others who don't think like you. I respect your desire to impose your will on me but that doesn't mean I accept it.
I can't help that you feel exposure to facts is an imposition.
 
My wife and I hosted Thanksgiving for about 25 family members at our Auburn home close to campus. Traveling home to The Woodlands, TX on Monday after the Iron Bowl I noticed a slightly scratchy throat and the next day I had a slight headache and felt tired but worked daily and even golfed with clients that Thursday. Since I had no fever, I assumed I had simply contracted a cold as my niece had a pretty bad cold Thanksgiving week. I also suspected it could have been the stress of being in JHS personally witnessing the harsin Iron Bowl meltdown (harsin's 4th November meltdown). I had no fever just some fatigue and headaches for 5-7 days or so and I didn't even consider testing for china virus. However, last Friday my wife awakened with body aches and a low grade fever so she went to get tested and she tested positive for the china virus. I later in the day tested positive as well though I by then was symptom free. My wife followed our physician's orders and immediately visited a local clinic and received the monoclonal antibodies infusion. Additionally, she immediately took 12 Ivermectin tablets as thankfully we have an awesome physician whom is a strong proponent of Ivermectin so we had previously stockpiled over 150 Ivermectin tablets. My beautiful wife had a rough evening Friday after receiving the monoclonal antibodies but thankfully by Saturday morning she was feeling significantly better and had zero fever. By Sunday she was virtually symptom free and has improved daily since and thankfully already tested negative for the china virus today. We are both 60 years old but we both exercise, take copious amounts of Vitamins and Zinc daily and we are both very unvaccinated though now blessed with natural antibodies. I'm not a physician so do your own thing based upon your doctor's orders but in the event you and or your loved ones should get this fauchi/china virus... don't panic but do try to get the monoclonal antibodies ASAP and if possible, get some Ivermectin into your system. The results my wife realized from the monoclonal antibodies and the Ivermectin was nothing short of amazing and we thank God for his Amazing Grace and healing. If you haven't a physician to prescribe Ivermectin, my friends and family have visited PushHealth.com and said they paid a physician $65 and they called in prescriptions into a Walgreens, Kroger, etc.... you're welcome.

Stay Strong & Courageous and Merry CHRISTmas!
I can only imagine how stupid you are to think typing “China-virus” that many times is clever. Congrats on being ignorant I guess. #TRUMP2024
 
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I am guessing you didn't read the medical article I posted. I haven't taken it but if you read the article then to assume it is not helpful is to deny the science at this point. But to be fair that is the biggest issue with COVID in general, minus all the deaths of course, people keep putting out BS. Even our scientist cant agree on a damn thing. I just wish they were all honest it would go a long way. And by honest its ok to say we think and this study showed.

To say it is as helpful as M&Ms is just intellectually dishonest.
I read it and probably two dozen more similar to it. At some point you guys are going to have to do some remedial high school biology work and understand the difference in this kind of crap and properly conducted clinical studies.
 
Didn’t get vaccine, puts others at risk, takes horse pills and experimental therapy to get better. Gives all the glory to god and then all caps the christ in Christmas. Ho- Lee - fuk.

Tax payer funded too! Monoclonal antibodies? Thousands of dollars for admin and dose Cost of a vaccine? $25/dose

Holy Lee hee haw
 
Here check out this study that summarizes the basic studies on Ivermectin. It is an interesting read.

Here is the summary conclusion:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Article:
https://journals.lww.com/americanth...mectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Unfortunately for every study that says it may be beneficial there is one that says it’s not.
 
Unfortunately for every study that says it may be beneficial there is one that says it’s not.
Yep, fully agree with this. Same with masks. I mean at some point we need some common sense to help out. We were told being in stadiums would be a super spreader event and kill thousands only to find out it was a nonevent. The lack truth and honesty is the biggest issue.
 
My wife and I hosted Thanksgiving for about 25 family members at our Auburn home close to campus. Traveling home to The Woodlands, TX on Monday after the Iron Bowl I noticed a slightly scratchy throat and the next day I had a slight headache and felt tired but worked daily and even golfed with clients that Thursday. Since I had no fever, I assumed I had simply contracted a cold as my niece had a pretty bad cold Thanksgiving week. I also suspected it could have been the stress of being in JHS personally witnessing the harsin Iron Bowl meltdown (harsin's 4th November meltdown). I had no fever just some fatigue and headaches for 5-7 days or so and I didn't even consider testing for china virus. However, last Friday my wife awakened with body aches and a low grade fever so she went to get tested and she tested positive for the china virus. I later in the day tested positive as well though I by then was symptom free. My wife followed our physician's orders and immediately visited a local clinic and received the monoclonal antibodies infusion. Additionally, she immediately took 12 Ivermectin tablets as thankfully we have an awesome physician whom is a strong proponent of Ivermectin so we had previously stockpiled over 150 Ivermectin tablets. My beautiful wife had a rough evening Friday after receiving the monoclonal antibodies but thankfully by Saturday morning she was feeling significantly better and had zero fever. By Sunday she was virtually symptom free and has improved daily since and thankfully already tested negative for the china virus today. We are both 60 years old but we both exercise, take copious amounts of Vitamins and Zinc daily and we are both very unvaccinated though now blessed with natural antibodies. I'm not a physician so do your own thing based upon your doctor's orders but in the event you and or your loved ones should get this fauchi/china virus... don't panic but do try to get the monoclonal antibodies ASAP and if possible, get some Ivermectin into your system. The results my wife realized from the monoclonal antibodies and the Ivermectin was nothing short of amazing and we thank God for his Amazing Grace and healing. If you haven't a physician to prescribe Ivermectin, my friends and family have visited PushHealth.com and said they paid a physician $65 and they called in prescriptions into a Walgreens, Kroger, etc.... you're welcome.

Stay Strong & Courageous and Merry CHRISTmas!
Yes ivermectin is good, I got roasted by some idiots on here because they probably believe the idiot fauci
 
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