Lol no you won’t. It surprises me that you would think I’m surprised. Poll numbers always matter. In EVERY government. It’s like saying your bosses opinion of you doesn’t matter? Like okay, good luck.
Do you work for an employer with 100 or more employees?
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cool we agree. It's bullshit and any and all skepticism should be expected/respected. Instead skeptics will be called conspiracy theorist and potentially fired from their jobs (unless they work for the USPS).
*I'm vaccinated, pro vaccine
Weirdly acceptable back and forth on the bunker. This doesn’t belong on the bunker. Please move.
But you threw your commentary in there. You just couldn’t help yourself. Here’s a poll for you for those companies over 100 employees:
not arguing that politics weren’t part of the decision. What government decision isn’t? They are all corrupt.
agreed, this administration and it's political policies are corrupt.
and here comes Stump to prove my point.
It's all about poll numbers. Joe's numbers won't drop much farther, because 35% of his followers are hard-core. Now is a great time to play the numbers, and distract from Afghanistan.
If you are going to mandate, and it is so popular - why not mandate the same way the "affordable care act' is mandated?
And if it is about saving lives why exempt the USPS?
I know you will not answer these questions...
It’s all matter of degrees. Of course they are all corrupt. We are talking about politics which need to raise money to win. So the question is are they more corrupt or less corrupt than others?
I have no clue what you are saying. Are you saying that lying sacks of shit skirt the system using regulatory bodies to mandate policy for some but not all and your for it?
If so why...because of team politics or sound policy?
Few things reach the degree of Covid ... what would you compare Covid in it's entirety to? Maybe the standard isn't which is worse between speeding and running a red light, but more towards to the overall potential for harm from such corruption.
Ole stumpy pecker doesn't understand the difference between laws and executive orders..........most libtards don't.
Yeah. That’s the feeling I’ve gotten. The last thing we need is another reason for people to not work. I’m in transportation, and keeping the product moving is a tall task right now.
Good point - Why didn't the biden administration use a mandate similar to the Affordable Care act enforced by the IRS for every man, woman and child eligible for the vaccine?
Wait what system? The government?Politicians are all lying and egotistical but if one decision is objectively better for the world over the other, of course I’m for that one. And I’m talking about actual choices, not hypotheticals. No policy that is put in place is the original policy.
Let me simply put it this way. No mandate will result in more deaths than a mandate, even a corrupt one. I like people not dying.
Of course there are extreme examples you could make that make that sound silly but getting a vaccine is not a big ask to prevent death.
@Rusty Strings Seemed like a simple question right? Yes/No.
Do you work for an employer with 100 or more employees?
Do you work for an employer with 100 or more employees?
'corrupt mandates' should be considered exactly as described. If it is a corrupt mandate, it is not legal.
objectively better for the world
"For the greater good" is associated with more harm and damage than most people will ever know.
Oh my gosh it's scary, that there are 6 or 7 people who can't discern the key difference between a company needing to provide Health Insurance, (in a country without a national healthcare), and a completely new/novel vaccine or drug, for which we have ZERO usage data from the mid-term and long-term segments of the full life-cycle of the drug.
It's astounding to see this level of specious thought and reasoning, at play. It's really, really sad and scary man.
What it also shows, is that you are likely the "wrong'est man about COVID" on the entire internet. You argued folks down that the Government would not implement mandates here in the U.S., but most of us are used to you being DEAD wrong, (while never being wrong.......in your own mind and own delusive reality).
The entire world has embarked on what is probably the most fool-hardy group think inspired risk experiment, in the history of mankind.
Many are hoping and praying that we luck out and the species continues on for a bit longer.
Many are hoping and praying that we luck out and the species continues on for a bit longer.
Perhaps. However I believe USPS was exempted for political purposes. They already have a customer service problem and that would be exacerbated if they lost some workers due to this new mandate. Therefore, I believe they are not forcing it on them.
True. They are that rabid. Emotionally vomiting and foaming at the mouth daily.
These are all tests. They push the limits on Executive Authority and overreach to see what can and can't work with the Judicial Branch. The Constitution has held strong in Court. Hence why the socialists and radical left are now working to change that document because it prevents them from their ultimate goal of fundamentally changing the country and everything it stood for.
The good news is that these mandates are not applied to USPS workers so your mail will be on time. Even better news.....Illegal Immigrants are not subject to these mandates either. From February 2021 through July 2021 there were over 1M apprehensions. 18% of these immigrants had COVID-19. 30% of them on average refuse to be vaccinated. Comparatively, if you had numbers from 2019 and 2020 for the same time period there were only 463K apprehensions - yes, that is adding 2019 and 2020 for the same time period. Wonder why our own Federal Government refuses to mandate illegal immigrants get vaccinated?
I am sure there are Governors lining up their AGs right now to sue on this one. It will be interesting to watch.
My wife and I were just talking about this issue. We just gave a ton of people a reason not to work. Worse we are going to fire the people we need to work. We will fire nurses, doctors, truck drivers, construction workers, you name it and we will fire them for not getting a vaccine. It just wont work.
This will 100% get bitch slapped over center field by the Supreme Court.
this is the biggest attempted over-reach by the “progressives” I can remember
There were all kinda of lies involved with that also like “you can use your own doctor”.
Progressives?? Full blown communist!
I didn't want to get into the inevitable hair splitting that comes from the idiots that think there is a meaningful difference between marxism, communism, socialism, “democratic socialism” and even fascism.
a favorite tactic of these idiots is to drag the conversation off into a rabbit trail about how “you are uneducated and dont know what you are even talking about” when you use any of these monikers to describe their statist policy du jour.
but for some reason they dont try that when you say “progressive”…even though it too is indiscernible from any of the above mentioned “isms” as a practical matter.
I’ll give a real life example. A builder was ordering windows for a new home build. Was informed today that it would be FEBRUARY before he would get them. Not next month but FEBRUARY!! Some folks need grow up and get back to work!
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I made zero political commentary, only that I don't think I'll work for a large employer again. You want to to twist that comment into some sort of tribalistic argument. I would normally tell someone that you're better than this, but we all know you are not.
Color me skeptical, but It seems like a fairly political decision. He doesn’t need Covid still being a thing when the midterms roll around. We have an incredibly short attention span, so Afghanistan will be forgot about by then.
It doesn’t matter who is in office, we lost our freedoms with the Patriot Act and it’s been downhill ever since.
It’s probably more of the data science Pareto principle (80/20). If you aren’t familiar, the concept is that 80% of consequences come from 20% of the causes. Applied loosely, 80% gain in vaccinations could come from the 20% largest companies. Now I personally doubt that break is at 100 employees so probably it is more than just that, but leaving the smaller companies out because they just don’t move the needle that much isn’t that surprising.
My man gets it. We’ve been rolling over for a long time now. That’s why no one takes it serious when you’re suddenly concerned about freedom, when it comes to a mask and a vaccine.
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