United Healthcare CEO shot and killed - UPDATE: Man taken into Custody
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You’re really not very good at this. But don’t worry, (starbucks) is always looking for barista’s.
Lol… You sure you don’t write for Hallmark?
The fallacy of that position is when John Smith puts his hard-earned income in the hands of an oligopoly of insurance providers to cover him in case of a future medical condition and gets told to pound sand.
Thankfully, that oligopoly paid good money (even some of John’s) to buy plenty of politicians and bureaucrats… poor John doesn’t stand a chance against these guys.
So, we can preach to John and the rest of the troublesome proletariat all day about whether his denial was legal within the four corners of the contract that he couldn’t read.
We can also espouse the virtues of placing shareholder value above the needs of the patient who paid for and relied on the oligopoly to help him with a rather inelastic product known as survival.
But John is still sitting there getting sicker and more pissed off.
Maybe someone should keep an eye on John.
You realize if you barely alter your post, it summarizes the frustration people have with insurance and healthcare?
That’s pretty ironic.
What a terrible analogy. You're better than that.
Well…. barista’s what?
No one is excusing murder, village idiot. That point could not have been made more clear for 17 pages now, no matter how outraged you’d like to be.
I am going to have to go back and read the entire thread to catch up. However, I am a conservative and a veteran. I consume a good bit of content to stay informed. I can you tell you that reading the articles and comments to those the range of emotions from the public go from “he deserved to die” to “I don’t condone killing but I see the frustrations”. This tells me that most of us view the system as in dire need of help. I can tell you I am not excited about turning it over to the government because they are the government and will mess it up but I also know that we can no continue down this path. I think that system can be tweaked to help the insured. The politicians need to figure this part out. Otherwise we will vote for the worst option and let the government do it. Again which I am also not in favor of.
No, again nobody has assigned specific guilt to this guy or for his actions. And if the company is following the contract, then it didn’t take any actions that led to an intentional death. But the CEO was murdered because somebody wanted to blame someone for something he didn’t like.
But here on the board, people are quietly cheering as I describe it, which is simply the abandonment of any ethical standard.
You’re the brainiac that thinks if I say “I don’t support violence“ and then I give reasons for saying the guy deserved it than that makes me ethical.
That’s why you’ve got a bright future as a barista at Starbucks
Well, with your ability to answer simple questions, much less you remembering what you said in a previous post, you’re homeless on either board. It goes well with your witlessness and irrationality.
Htf do you even walk around?
Nobody is assigning guilt to anyone because nobody believes that the victim should have been murdered.
You are incoherently yelling at clouds that don’t even exist and nobody appears to be interested in playing with you. Take a hint.
Again, you say exactly the opposite of what you mean.
And it’s beautiful you can’t answer a simple question. You just have to keep telling people to shut up.
Thanks for playing.
Thats not my read on it. People are saying he shouldnt have been killed, while also acknowledging that while something may be legal, that doesnt make it right or ethical.
I don’t even know what you’re talking about at this point. You’re that far gone.
We’re all saying exactly what we mean.
Legal conformity =/= moral innocence.
Then*, not than. And no, that’s not what’s happening. Speculating on the motivations and observing the fact that UHC and its policies have likely contributed to the preventable deaths of thousands of people is very clearly distinguishable from supporting a murder. At least, to non-morons.
I’ve met many Starbucks baristas who had a better grasp of the English language than you do, so maybe you should try and keep the insults to a minimum.
It’s a shame the fbi has not put the same investigation effort into Trump's 2 assignation attempts.
The thick plottens:
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of several senior executives at the company under investigation by the Department of Justice when he was gunned down outside a Manhattan hotel on Wednesday.
Thompson — who was killed in what police called a targeted shooting outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown — exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain’s New York Business report from April.
Thompson’s stock options reportedly had several years until expiration, and the sale of shares was his first since assuming the helm of parent company UnitedHealth’s insurance division in 2021.
Thompson, 50, along with UnitedHealth Group chairman Stephen Helmsley, chief people officer Erin McSweeney and chief accounting officer Tom Roos, sold a combined $101.5 million in shares, with Helmsley personally netting just shy of $85 million, according to the report.
nypost.com
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of several senior executives at the company under investigation by the Department of Justice when he was gunned down outside a Manhattan hotel on Wednesday.
Thompson — who was killed in what police called a targeted shooting outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown — exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain’s New York Business report from April.
Thompson’s stock options reportedly had several years until expiration, and the sale of shares was his first since assuming the helm of parent company UnitedHealth’s insurance division in 2021.
Thompson, 50, along with UnitedHealth Group chairman Stephen Helmsley, chief people officer Erin McSweeney and chief accounting officer Tom Roos, sold a combined $101.5 million in shares, with Helmsley personally netting just shy of $85 million, according to the report.
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was facing DOJ probe for insider trading when he was killed in targeted NYC shooting
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of several senior executives at the company under investigation earlier this year for allegedly dumping over $100 million in company stock months before …
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Thank you for your service. I’m not here to argue. Just not in my DNA. Some love it. Not me. However, as someone who has worked in healthcare on the industry side for 30 years, this has to be fixed, not just tweaked.
When the top 6 providers raked in 50 BILLION In profits in 2023 alone, therein lies my beef. Always been a capitalist and am a business owner myself so I’m flummoxed.
Wanting profits is fine but at what cost? When the denial rate of claims is celebrated and CEOs make 8 figure incomes and UHC make 30+ billion in profits in one year, it’s just frustrating. I don’t have the answers but it sure seems like those profits could be put to better use.
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That is fine but I will tell you turning it over the government would be an absolute dumpster fire. I know how they spend money on the DoD side and I am not excited what that would look like with healthcare. Not to mention they would need to completely eradicate most of the other governmental agency bloat to attempt such. Tweak or redesign your word choice is fine but I really fear that side of the fence more.
It should be alarming to everyone. This country is full of deranged lunatics and people are actually attempting to justify this murder.
Privatization is obviously not the solution, though. Removing the massive profit incentive would solve a lot of problems.
I agree with the Senator. He’s speaking directly to many people ITT.
This country being full of deranged lunatics has been abundantly clear for a while now, but the problem of the system being rigged to exploit people for profit is still a problem.
You should call out the people ITT condoning or cheering for it, specifically.
All good points. But then we are back to the question of whether UHC is wrongfully denying claims, which no one has been able to answer.
This is an incredibly ignorant analogy. You have picked a dumb hill to die on defending the honor of the insurance industry.
There’s no fallacy. John Smith’s employer should have done a better job negotiating the terms of the policy that it provided for its employees. The bottom line is that our health care system is a complete shit show.
At this point, I think is to far gone for a purely market based solution. I’m friends with about 20 or so doctors, most of whom are die hard conservatives, and they all seem to agree that the only solution is some form is single payer system supplemented by catastrophic private insurance for those willing to pay for it.
But none of that justifies the murder of the CEO.
They’re in the middle of a lawsuit alleging exactly that, no? But even if they weren’t, I’m sure they’ve been able to successfully shield themselves from any legal consequences while also minimizing the ability of their customers to receive the medical care they need to the extent possible. That is explicitly their business model, after all.
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