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No one with a brain disagrees that the cops in MN crossed the line, and sadly, this is just another example of where this has occurred too often. However, shooting randomly into a federal building and killing an off duty FBI agent, and wounding another, zero outrage, zero accountability, this is pure insanity, we are at the point of Martial Law is the only way to control the out of control.
 
outlaws7 said:
No one with a brain disagrees that the cops in MN crossed the line, and sadly, this is just another example of where this has occurred too often. However, shooting randomly into a federal building and killing an off duty FBI agent, and wounding another, zero outrage, zero accountability, this is pure insanity, we are at the point of Martial Law is the only way to control the out of control.
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There are agitators with agendas leading some of this stuff. In Atlanta yesterday, I watched the news and as the peaceful protest was winding down and breaking up, there were 4-6 major incidents initiated one after the other, where somewhat out of place individuals took their skateboards and started bashing windows of police cars, picking up barricades and bashing windows, and it was like starting a fire. Mob mentality would then take over and the ignorant, easily duped thugs would then jump in and start doing the same things, and those who started it would slide off into the crowd or go start another window bashing deal.

There are folks who want to start a race war. They believe these riots are a way to do it, and don't underestimate them sending plants to cities to incite mobs. The idiots taking the bait are definitely stupid too, and even if it isn't an extremist trying to start a race war, you're stupid as can be if you allow yourself to be baited into committing crimes and causing a "protest" to go left. What happened yesterday in Atlanta is unbelievably sad. Also, as I said before. The last time they were running around "protesting" here, I was walking a mile or so back to my car over by the Aquarium/World of Coke, so I walked with the wild throngs of protesters for blocks. It was un-be-lievable how ignorant these young early 20-somethings were, thinking they were helping a cause by just running around looking for something to tear up.

I wanted SO badly to try to stop and explain to them why it was completely counter-productive to attack an innocent cop in one city, because they were upset about an incident somewhere else across the country, but I knew if I said anything it could go left in an instant, and the mob might have flashed and beat my severely. So I just kept biting my tongue and kept walking, (but so many of the signs and things people were chanting were just SO wrong and misplaced).
 
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Mayor Fishwater said:
I refuse to believe in 2020 this shit can’t be traced all the way up to the top. Who is flying these people into cities, who is bailing them all out, who is shipping gd pallets of bricks in. You’d think if FBI agents are getting shot they would be a little more motivated to figure it out

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Press conference sounds like they are very motivated. MN Gov says they want to release names of folks arrested and have everyone who can—feds, media etc—find out what groups they are affiliated with.
 
A very small percentage are getting arrested so they have no idea how many are residents. I would say the overwhelming majority of the looters were locals. Same for that crew that went after cops inside the cnn bldg. That’s not to say the leadership wasn’t from an organized group. It only takes a few hired people who know what they are doing to get locals to behave criminally. Just organizing a March is unfortunately going to cause chaos after the March.
 
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A very small percentage are getting arrested so they have no idea how many are residents. I would say the overwhelming majority of the looters were locals. Same for that crew that went after cops inside the cnn bldg. That’s not to say the leadership wasn’t from an organized group. It only takes a few hired people who know what they are doing to get locals to behave criminally. Just organizing a March is unfortunately going to cause chaos after the March.
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The MN Gov this morning estimated 20% locals 80% outsiders.
 
outlaws7 said:
No one with a brain disagrees that the cops in MN crossed the line, and sadly, this is just another example of where this has occurred too often. However, shooting randomly into a federal building and killing an off duty FBI agent, and wounding another, zero outrage, zero accountability, this is pure insanity, we are at the point of Martial Law is the only way to control the out of control.
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Wait... Someone killed an FBI agent?
 
griffna said:
I guess I heard it wrong. I just woke up and am catching up on the news from last night.
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I heard the same thing this morning. Even told my wife an FBI agent was killed. Then I saw this story. Doesn’t make any difference to me. A security guy in a federal building was randomly murdered last night.
 
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It shouldn’t matter who started them. This was a tragic but understandable form of “protest”, or so I was told previously anyway

Why place blame?
 
Mayor Fishwater said:
I refuse to believe in 2020 this shit can’t be traced all the way up to the top. Who is flying these people into cities, who is bailing them all out, who is shipping gd pallets of bricks in. You’d think if FBI agents are getting shot they would be a little more motivated to figure it out

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Everyone in America should be forced to watch this, so they would understand the real driving force behind this.
 
Mayor Fishwater said:
I refuse to believe in 2020 this shit can’t be traced all the way up to the top. Who is flying these people into cities, who is bailing them all out, who is shipping gd pallets of bricks in. You’d think if FBI agents are getting shot they would be a little more motivated to figure it out

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The guy who is too much of a distraction to be just a backup QB is covering bail for some, not sure about the rest. These aren’t just out of town people, they are white supremisist Trump supporters.
 
griffna said:
I say that because I don’t know why the people protesting would listen to white supremacists and allow them to dictate their actions. It’s completely contrary to their message.
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Kilgore didn’t tell you that along with white supremacists the Governor is also blaming drug cartels for this.
 
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KilgoreTrout said:
MN governor this morning said base on arrests they suspect white supremacist groups and drug cartels. TIFWIW
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He is a ding moron. It’s Soros and everyone knows it. You know it. CBS and cnn know ot
 
bagr said:
There is no telling who. Lots of people would have reason to try and turn them violent. There is video of someone smashing windows. Some tried to say s Minnesota cop was to blame but it doesn't seem to be not does it look like a protesters.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/
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They debunked that it was a police officer. They have his where abouts. That saying there are some going around knocking in windows. No way to know who it is but the open windows does not mean it is open game. It is not open game to burn automobiles. The thing is these protests need to go away and not be held without permit and after sundown.
 
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It shouldn’t matter who started them. This was a tragic but understandable form of “protest”, or so I was told previously anyway

Why place blame?
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Because destroying property and people's livelihoods is illegal. Are you insane?
 
outlaws7 said:
No one with a brain disagrees that the cops in MN crossed the line, and sadly, this is just another example of where this has occurred too often. However, shooting randomly into a federal building and killing an off duty FBI agent, and wounding another, zero outrage, zero accountability, this is pure insanity, we are at the point of Martial Law is the only way to control the out of control.
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Just wait til they starting killing each other. It always comes full circle
 
griffna said:
That really doesn’t make sense, but I’ll wait for more information.
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Yeah it does, both groups engage in major drug trafficking. LEO and agencies they partner with are too busy dealing with this bullshit to be able to focus on their typical priorities.
 
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Yeah it does, both groups engage in major drug trafficking. LEO and agencies they partner with are too busy dealing with this bullshit to be able to focus on their typical priorities.
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But why would the people protesting take orders from white supremacists?
 
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But why would the people protesting take orders from white supremacists?
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C'mon griffna. You're smarter than that. They aren't taking orders, but they are being baited into stupid mob mentality acts without realizing it. The supremacists groups and those who want to start a race war sent plenty of their operatives to Charlottesville, Virginia a couple of years ago to blend in and wreak havoc. They sit and plan and when these opportunities present themselves, it's not hard to have people ready to go drive/fly to these cities, dress and act a certain way to blend in, and then set things off. One act of vandalism, or one cracked window to a premium store, and thuggery starts. Here yesterday, it was a high-end restaurant, and then ignorant thugs started going in and grabbing bottles of premium liquor. The gangs here opportunistically hit Lennox Mall high value sites last night. Drug cartels have plans sitting and waiting because they know all LEO will be tied up with protests in these cities, and they can do things that they could never do otherwise.

Did you see the video that I posted in the other thread? I sat and watched a long live coverage of Atlanta yesterday, and after hours of peaceful protests, the initiators started 4-6 criminal incidents, and the blind idiots took the cheese, and jumped in and things went south quickly.
 
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