What if I told you that 2024 Payton Thorne is the best HEW Freeze QB to have ever existed while being coached by him? Would that be something you would like more information on?
In terms of development, there isn't much there to suggest Bo took any giant steps forward. Maybe he maintained a high floor of consistency, but that didn't help him get to the NFL. Not drafted and cut in minicamp.
Kelly took some notable steps back in year 2 under Corch HEW. Kelly did find himself drafted in the 7th round... picked last in the NFL draft. From all I can tell, he appeared once in a game to take a kneel.
2019 is the First Year for Hugh at Liberty.... You can see some clear improvement with Calvert in the 1st year with HEW. But this is where growth seems to stop...
Willis puts up some better counting stats due to throwing more passes in Year 2, but the quality dips in both Comp% and Rating. I have a hard time coming to the conclusion that Willis got better in year 2. Willis was drafted in the 3rd round. That is significant.
Payton Thorne's 13-game projection
While Payton's usage numbers are less than what the Ole Miss QBs did under Corch HEW, he is slightly better in Passer Rating. He is also doing more with what he is being asked to do with is reps. Payton is clearly the most improved QB that HEW has coached. This is what it is.... Welcome to the circus.
And I know Rice will say... but Kaidon Salter... He did actually improve as a passer..... under Corch Jamey Chadwell.
Folks, it appears we hired the wrong Liberty Head Football Coach.
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| Bo Wallace | |||||||||||||
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2012* | 235 | 368 | 63.9 | 2994 | 22 | 6 | 17 | 4.6 | 8.1 | 7.25 | 12.7 | 230.3 | 142.7 |
| 2013* | 283 | 437 | 64.8 | 3346 | 18 | 4.1 | 10 | 2.3 | 7.7 | 7.45 | 11.8 | 257.4 | 138.1 |
| 2014* | 229 | 381 | 60.1 | 3194 | 22 | 5.8 | 14 | 3.7 | 8.4 | 7.88 | 13.9 | 245.7 | 142.2 |
In terms of development, there isn't much there to suggest Bo took any giant steps forward. Maybe he maintained a high floor of consistency, but that didn't help him get to the NFL. Not drafted and cut in minicamp.
| Chad Kelly | |||||||||||||
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2015* | 298 | 458 | 65.1 | 4042 | 31 | 6.8 | 13 | 2.8 | 8.8 | 8.9 | 13.6 | 310.9 | 155.9 |
| 2016 | 293 | 473 | 62.5 | 3984 | 24 | 5.8 | 11 | 2.4 | 8.4 | 8.47 | 13.5 | 306.4 | 147.4 |
Kelly took some notable steps back in year 2 under Corch HEW. Kelly did find himself drafted in the 7th round... picked last in the NFL draft. From all I can tell, he appeared once in a game to take a kneel.
| Stephen Calvert | ||||||||||||
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2018 | 240 | 439 | 54.7 | 3068 | 21 | 4.8 | 18 | 4.1 | 7 | 12.8 | 255.7 | 121 |
| 2019* | 249 | 431 | 57.8 | 3663 | 28 | 6.5 | 7 | 1.6 | 8.5 | 14.7 | 281.8 | 147.4 |
2019 is the First Year for Hugh at Liberty.... You can see some clear improvement with Calvert in the 1st year with HEW. But this is where growth seems to stop...
| malik Willis | ||||||||||||
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2020* | 170 | 265 | 64.2 | 2260 | 20 | 7.5 | 6 | 2.3 | 8.5 | 13.3 | 226 | 156.2 |
| 2021* | 207 | 339 | 61.1 | 2862 | 27 | 8 | 12 | 3.5 | 8.4 | 13.8 | 220.2 | 151.2 |
Willis puts up some better counting stats due to throwing more passes in Year 2, but the quality dips in both Comp% and Rating. I have a hard time coming to the conclusion that Willis got better in year 2. Willis was drafted in the 3rd round. That is significant.
| Payton Thorne | ||||||||||||
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2023 | 162 | 265 | 61.1 | 1755 | 16 | 6% | 10 | 3.8 | 6.6 | 10.8 | 135 | 129.1 |
| 2024 | 77 | 129 | 60% | 1238 | 10 | 8% | 6 | 4.70% | 9.6 | 16.1 | 247.6 | 156.6 |
Payton Thorne's 13-game projection
| Season | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate |
| 2024 projection | 200.2 | 335.4 | 59.69% | 3218.8 | 26 | 7.75% | 15.6 | 4.65% | 9.6 | 16.1 | 247.6 | 157.05 |
While Payton's usage numbers are less than what the Ole Miss QBs did under Corch HEW, he is slightly better in Passer Rating. He is also doing more with what he is being asked to do with is reps. Payton is clearly the most improved QB that HEW has coached. This is what it is.... Welcome to the circus.
And I know Rice will say... but Kaidon Salter... He did actually improve as a passer..... under Corch Jamey Chadwell.
Folks, it appears we hired the wrong Liberty Head Football Coach.
@crococile22 @stutsman23 @ricedp105 @Docdumpsta @grizzlyadams16 @Big Blue @SHORTS @Jeffrey Lee @murray_hitchock @Mikecb22
