How long is one allowed to carry a grudge against a group that did one's ancestors wrong? Should I still be mad at the English for invading and conquering Ireland and taking my mother's people's land and goods?
Lynchings in Minnesota
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Probably 18. I wasn't raised in AL, well not after age 2 or so. FL and GA. And it's possible I read about it beforehand or heard about it somewhere, I just had never really dug in and researched it until then. This was a 30+ years ago you see.
"Keeping up with Crazy Horse" didn't pull the same interest as keeping up with crazy hoes
Okay, that’s not so bad. Well within reason. I was thinking you were in your 30s or 40s, and it was all new to you.
Also, I wasn’t referring to researching them but being aware of the basic fact that it happened and it was really bad.
When are the Germans going to have to pay for fighting my Grandpa? He earned two silver stars and a bronze star thumping their asses but I demand millions!lol
Yeah, I was either a freshman or soph in college, can't recall which. ASF hadn't been built too many years before either. It was either the first or second production I watched there and it was in the Octagon, the theater in the round. I read the book the play was partially based upon before watching the play.
I would never tell anyone how to feel about something. But you can't live in the past if you hope to have a successful future.
Horrific injustice you say? I submit the following TV shows:
The Kardashians
Jersey Shore
All of the Real Housewives
American Idol and it's ilk
The Batchelor and other dating shows.
16 and Pregnant - although if they'd backed it up a year and named it "15 and Fukkin" they coulda had something.
High waisted girls fashion trend - it's like it's a crime to look sexy anymore.
Frat guy's short shorts - Nothing really needs to be said here.
Kell, do you know the meaning of the word “lynching”?
Since you brought this information to the board, I can only assume you are aware of the entire story and you are intentionally leaving out the context that surrounded this situation and the Dakota Wars.
What the US government did to Native Americans as a whole can never be excused, but what does putting forth half truths and false narratives accomplish?
Also, to you take exception with this memorial in Montgomery?
I have never read this. But what white people did to Native American Indians is, IMO, one horrendous atrocity after another. It began with Christopher Columbus and still continues today.
They were made up of various tribes but they were all Native Americans to this country. They each had their customs, traditions, language, leaders, and land.
Italians weren’t considered white until a helluva lot more recently than Christoper Columbus.
The word has almost always been meant to say vigilante justice is bad. Didn't necessarily have to be a hanging, or actually a law to be enforced but usually a mob type carrying out their form of justice. Kind of like saying we are seeing public lynchings with the social media of people with bad posts.
My honest answers:
1. Gross wealth inequality
2. Failure to take quick and decisive action against climate change
3. Locking children up in cages at our Southern border
4. Lack of universal healthcare despite ridiculous national wealth
5. Same-sex marriage opposition
6. Forcing people to pay for education at any level
7. Lack of universal childcare.
8. Corporate oligarchy
Sounds like there’s a bit of nuance to the story. Can we agree on that, or no?
Obvious troll is obvious.
(oh, you left out the a word. Or does that fall under universal health care?)
First part - 100% true
Second part - you may want to brush up on the travels of Columbus.
The fact that you think I'm trolling shows that you'll be on the wrong side of history.
Why would that stance be in opposition to your conservatism?
The fact I think you’re trolling does not say anything about what I believe about the 8 things you mentioned that ironically aren’t exactly on topic of this thread.
Another sound bite. From a post where I didn’t say anything about the subject you mention. Hmmmm
Uum, wow. This is why I don't understand people in Alabama being opposed to the Poarch Creek Indians being able to open whatever gaming they want to. The way we treated Native Americans in our history, they should get a free pass on just about anything they want to do. More power to them.
Please inform me of the hardships you have personally experienced because of the Trans Atlantic slave trade
Thanks for making the original point for me, again
80-90% of NAs died of disease unintentionally brought here before the first English colony was established in North America
You may be the most dense person here
Either "seeing statues of someone who fought to enslave your ancestors" is harmful, or it isn't.
I am not so sure of that in our country. The Central America and South America were hit incredibly hard but that is because they had large cities per say. We were more nomadic and tribe based with lots of movement. I would be surprised if there was a massive drop off in population before our expansion occurred.
I think that is the correct term also. The problem we have with the terminology is that lynching did not necessarily mean that the person or group was innocent, just that that justice was performed by the mob with out giving them legal recourse. Lots of ways to look at that. Killing someone unjustly is murder or execution so I am happy with that term being applied here.
Ummm, the Mississippians, the Anasazi, the Mound Builders, ...First Contact with the Spanish changed the continent rapidly. Including creating a Plains Indian horse culture out of thin air that had never existed before
Agree it changed the culture a lot quickly. Thing is the Capital city of the Aztecs lost hundreds of thousands and I am not sure we had that large of a total population. Just more spread out.
Lynching has very specific meaning. It is not complex or vague or difficult to understand. And it always means a mob hanging an African American, extrajudicially. Any confusion is unfounded.
I don’t know where you came up with all that other bullshit, but ignoring that source in the future would be sound advice.
The mass execution referenced in the OP was not extrajudicial, therefore, it was not a lynching or a murder.
Words mean things, and they don’t mean whatever we want them to mean.
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