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People that are vaccinated still catching COVID afterward

Out of curiosity, did you have Covid before? Reason I ask is I’ve read mixed reviews on who feels bad after the second shot (people that previously has Covid and people who never had it)
I don't know tbh. Never got tested for either covid or the antibodies. Youth sports never missed a beat from summer until now so I was shoulder to shoulder with maskless screaming fans the whole time. I still went to restaurants pretty regularly too and never stopped working. Just seems damn near impossible that I was never exposed to it
 
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I know of 2 different people that got the vaccine in February and caught Covid this week. Anybody else hearing similar stories?

I know dozens of people who've gotten vaccinated. None have caught COVID.

That said, there is a slim chance one can still catch it. It's in the 5-6% range but still possible. It is however 100% effective at preventing serious disease/effects and 100% at preventing hospitalization. Sucks for those guys though.
 
There is a reason they call it a "flu shot" instead of a "flu vaccine"...there is no guarantee you will not get the flu after taking it.

This is scientifically inaccurate hogwash.

The reason you hear about more people getting the flu even after vaccination is that because of how many strains are out in a given year and the unpredictability of which ones will take off, the vaccine is only about 40-60% effective. It does tend to lessen the severity if you do catch it though.
 
The flu shot is 100% a vaccine. There are many, many strains of the flu and the vaccine is formulated to address the most likely strains to be prevalent based on the previous year's data. Sometimes they hit the most prevalent strains and sometimes they miss.

correct. i think the immunity aspect confuses people.

immune does not mean you can't get something, it means you are resistant to it.
 
There’s a story about 100 people getting it post “vaccine” in Washington state. It’s because it’s not a vaccine - it’s experimental gene therapy. It merely acts to lessen the symptoms - something which cheap existing drugs like ivermectin already did.

It stops 90% of people from actually getting the virus and it’s very unlikely the ones that get it spread it due to the viral load being about ten times less. Stop posting nonsense.
 
There’s a story about 100 people getting it post “vaccine” in Washington state. It’s because it’s not a vaccine - it’s experimental gene therapy. It merely acts to lessen the symptoms - something which cheap existing drugs like ivermectin already did.

Stop.

It's not gene therapy you vapid twit. And the data is showing that it doesn't just prevent symptoms (even though it does a bang-up job at that), it also prevents infection and transmission in the 90+% range.

Washington State has had 102 cases of fully vaccinated people contracting COVID - out of 1.2 million people fully vaccinated statewide. That's an infection rate of 0.0083%.
 
Stop.

It's not gene therapy you vapid twit. And the data is showing that it doesn't just prevent symptoms (even though it does a bang-up job at that), it also prevents infection and transmission in the 90+% range.

Washington State has had 102 cases of fully vaccinated people contracting COVID - out of 1.2 million people fully vaccinated statewide. That's an infection rate of 0.0083%.

i laughed way too hard at "vapid twit"...like i'm laughing as i type this
 
if you are even remotely healthy, getting COVID will not cause you to die or be on a vent.

I had two healthy people in my life get seriously ill from COVID, both around my age (late 40s/early 50s). Both relatively healthy. One died. The other had to go to the hospital. Those are just the ones I know about right now. Stop it.

Completely agree on the variants. For those taking the current vaccination, it doesn't protect against any variant of COVID, in fact, it weakens the immune system (the one that is naturally built to fight these diseases).

Yes it does. The latest data on the Pfizer vaccine shows it's at least 70-90% effective against even the most worrisome variants such at the South African one. And it does not weaken the immune system - at all. Stop peddling bullshit.
 
Honestly, I can't believe we're this far along and still have people pushing this horseshit from Dr. YouTube and Nurse Facebook. It's maddening.

too many people aren't interested in learning with an open mind. they look for information to validate the opinions they already have.

the Dr. YouTube and Nurse Facebooks of the world happily fill that role.
 
While we are at it here anyone who knows they had COVID for sure get the vaccine and what was there reaction. Seems like the Doctors keep updating what to do and when with folks that have already had COVID. Also in case no one noticed the reinfection rate of people who have had COVID already is so close to zero the CDC wont even give a number they just list it as "Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible—although rare—that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. " As a Doctor you don't say "possible but rare" unless you think it is so rare it is almost nonexistent. They even go on to say they still cant figure out how long a person is immune and fits into that rare category.

They are also saying don't get the vaccine for at least 90 days after you received the Plasma treatment.

Leaves a person who had COVID and the Plasma treatment curious what other have felt? Anyone had all 3 (COVID, Plasma and the vaccine)?
 
This. People vaccinated will catch COVID. It's designed to lessen the likelihood of catching it and limit severe complications.

My biggest complaint with all of the conflicting information we're getting is the public being told to take the same precautions we've been taking pre-vaccine. Once everyone has had the opportunity to be vaccinated we need to live our lives normally so this thing can run it's course and go away. Otherwise it's going to drag on for years.
The reason I didn’t get vaccinated is because it bought me nothing in regards to traveling and quarantine. Vaccinated people are under the same quarantine restrictions as unvaccinated folks. I saw no benefit to get vaccinated.
 
The reason I didn’t get vaccinated is because it bought me nothing in regards to traveling and quarantine. Vaccinated people are under the same quarantine restrictions as unvaccinated folks. I saw no benefit to get vaccinated.

The benefit I suppose is no long term affects from Covid. Scuba divers in the US navy are now unable to scuba dive due to the damage to their lungs. Maybe with time they will be able to.
 
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My biggest complaint with all of the conflicting information we're getting is the public being told to take the same precautions we've been taking pre-vaccine. Once everyone has had the opportunity to be vaccinated we need to live our lives normally so this thing can run it's course and go away. Otherwise it's going to drag on for years.

The goals are not to get people healthy and back to normal.
 
I know a couple of people who got Lipitor prescriptions and they are still eating the F out of some cheeseburgers and pizza. Same problem, just different timeline and farewell procedures...
 
I know a couple of people who got Lipitor prescriptions and they are still eating the F out of some cheeseburgers and pizza. Same problem, just different timeline and farewell procedures...

Or diabetics on insulin who are ignoring dietary restrictions/not checking and monitoring sugars.
 
While we are at it here anyone who knows they had COVID for sure get the vaccine and what was there reaction. Seems like the Doctors keep updating what to do and when with folks that have already had COVID. Also in case no one noticed the reinfection rate of people who have had COVID already is so close to zero the CDC wont even give a number they just list it as "Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible—although rare—that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. " As a Doctor you don't say "possible but rare" unless you think it is so rare it is almost nonexistent. They even go on to say they still cant figure out how long a person is immune and fits into that rare category.

They are also saying don't get the vaccine for at least 90 days after you received the Plasma treatment.

Leaves a person who had COVID and the Plasma treatment curious what other have felt? Anyone had all 3 (COVID, Plasma and the vaccine)?
I tested positive for the antibodies back in February and so apparently had asymptomatic COVID previously. I had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine a couple of weeks ago with no side effects other than a sore arm for a day. From what I can tell, some people who have had COVID have no reaction to the vaccine while others strongly react. Likewise, some who have not had COVID react strongly to the vaccine and vice versa. Reactions to the vaccines are like the reactions to the virus itself - random. Everybody should get the vaccine while following the guidance from the medical professionals.
 
Someone explain to me why this clown Biden thinks it’s a bad idea to attend games or gather in groups??? Anyone who is older and at risk has now had ample time to get the vaccine.
Yet we’re still listening to this clown talk as if we’re on the cusp of disaster.
Live your life.
 
Someone explain to me why this clown Biden thinks it’s a bad idea to attend games or gather in groups??? Anyone who is older and at risk has now had ample time to get the vaccine.
Yet we’re still listening to this clown talk as if we’re on the cusp of disaster.
Live your life.

Many people, like you (imo), aren't listening to him. Many are. You, imo, are going to do what you want regardless of what he says. Do you, man.
 
Stop.

It's not gene therapy you vapid twit. And the data is showing that it doesn't just prevent symptoms (even though it does a bang-up job at that), it also prevents infection and transmission in the 90+% range.

Washington State has had 102 cases of fully vaccinated people contracting COVID - out of 1.2 million people fully vaccinated statewide. That's an infection rate of 0.0083%.
Yes it is asshole - it is gene manipulation- It’s getting your cells to produce the proteins - that’s not natural - Ivermectin serves the same purpose of Lessening the symptoms without all the risk - 80% less in fact.
 
Basically, if you take 100 Vaccinated (Moderna/Pfizer) people in a room, expose them to covid, 10 will still catch it. More so with J&J.
Another way of saying that it that it's 90% effective.
This is actually incorrect, but it's just semantics in the statistical methods used for showing vaccine efficacy. It is even better than you stated. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me so I'll use some numbers I read awhile back. On an average year, 24 out of 100 people will get COVID. With a vaccine efficacy of 90% that means that 2.4 people out of 100 vaccinated people will get COVID. It's just in the numbers. A SARS-Cov2 variant may have an increased R value and 36 out of 100 people may get COVID. A 90% efficacy vaccine against the new strain would infect 3.9 people out of 100 vaccinated. It's tomato-tomoto.
 
Vaccines were meant to prevent moderate to severe symptoms

As a general rule I throw up in my mouth whenever I see Vox, but this is a very well done video. Recommend watching.

Of course it doe not touch on the biggest unknown which is the lack of understanding of potential long-term side effects.
 
The reason I didn’t get vaccinated is because it bought me nothing in regards to traveling and quarantine. Vaccinated people are under the same quarantine restrictions as unvaccinated folks. I saw no benefit to get vaccinated.
The benefit I suppose is no long term affects from Covid. Scuba divers in the US navy are now unable to scuba dive due to the damage to their lungs. Maybe with time they will be able to.
Either (a) I’ve already had it and was asymptomatic or (b) my immune system rocks because I have been in the same room as people with Covid and haven’t contracted symptoms. My mom and sister were symptomatic. I was with them when they showed no symptoms and when they showed symptoms.
I came back February 2020 to the states from pacific islands with flu-like symptoms. Struck me as odd because I don’t get the flu. Maybe that was Covid. I was never tested for it back then, and have never taken an antibody test.
 
Either (a) I’ve already had it and was asymptomatic or (b) my immune system rocks because I have been in the same room as people with Covid and haven’t contracted symptoms. My mom and sister were symptomatic. I was with them when they showed no symptoms and when they showed symptoms.
I came back February 2020 to the states from pacific islands with flu-like symptoms. Struck me as odd because I don’t get the flu. Maybe that was Covid. I was never tested for it back then, and have never taken an antibody test.

you and I are clearly of superior genetic make up. Do we “need” it? Probably not. But maybe it will allow me to go to a concert or some shit
 
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“I immediately went to the COVID-ICU,” she said. Once there, “they did the swab and determined it wasn't COVID, but it was a reaction to the shot or vaccine.”

Once stabilized, Banks said she was moved to another floor. The move was short lived.

“I got up there and coded again and they brought me back down," Banks said, using the hospital slang term "coded" to describe when a patient experiences a cardiopulmonary emergency.

All the breathing and wheezing had ruptured my vocal cord," she said.
Banks spent three days in the ICU. A month-and-a-half later, she's working to get her strength and her voice back. Sleep is another thing she’s not getting enough of as she fights post-traumatic stress and the worry she will stop breathing if she goes to sleep.

While Banks' allergic reaction is rare, Dr. Tamara Sheffield, a vaccine specialist with Intermountain Healthcare, said there are more allergic reactions than expected from the trials.

“In terms of what is higher than we would see in other vaccines,
 
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I tested positive for the antibodies back in February and so apparently had asymptomatic COVID previously. I had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine a couple of weeks ago with no side effects other than a sore arm for a day. From what I can tell, some people who have had COVID have no reaction to the vaccine while others strongly react. Likewise, some who have not had COVID react strongly to the vaccine and vice versa. Reactions to the vaccines are like the reactions to the virus itself - random. Everybody should get the vaccine while following the guidance from the medical professionals.
Thanks, I do know a lot of folks who have gotten the vaccine and have had COVID. I am trying to see if anyone on here has had COVID, gotten the plasma treatment (Something you get in the hospital) and gotten the vaccine.

The Plasma treatment had antibodies in it. AS I understand it the reason the CDC is saying wait at least 90 days is folks that had the plasma before had their bodies attacking the vaccine so well and it seemed like they had COVID again when is reality they were just fighting it really hard.
 
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“I immediately went to the COVID-ICU,” she said. Once there, “they did the swab and determined it wasn't COVID, but it was a reaction to the shot or vaccine.”

Once stabilized, Banks said she was moved to another floor. The move was short lived.

“I got up there and coded again and they brought me back down," Banks said, using the hospital slang term "coded" to describe when a patient experiences a cardiopulmonary emergency.


Banks spent three days in the ICU. A month-and-a-half later, she's working to get her strength and her voice back. Sleep is another thing she’s not getting enough of as she fights post-traumatic stress and the worry she will stop breathing if she goes to sleep.

While Banks' allergic reaction is rare, Dr. Tamara Sheffield, a vaccine specialist with Intermountain Healthcare, said there are more allergic reactions than expected from the trials.

“In terms of what is higher than we would see in other vaccines,

We know.
 
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