Well, the only fact I know about all this is Disney reacted to her statements yet remains silent on Terry Moran who compared Trump to Hitler.
See how that works?
See how that works?
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...as is evidenced by Disney remaining totally silent on Terry Moran who compared Trump to Hitler.Sure a private company can fire who they want if it's out of alignment with their culture, etc. My point is this pattern is not dealt with evenly. You can look no further than colleges. Professors are often not fired or even suspended for really crass and offensive comments. Actors and musicians say some of the most hair brained crap and may get a wrist-slapping, but rarely are they fired from their role, contract, etc.
Now Gina had a pattern that Disney didn't like much and ppl need to accept that. I'm just saying "freedom of speech" is dealt with evenly in this country. Ilhan Omar should have at least been censored for her constant anti-Semitic remarks. Period.
I guess its a good thing she didn't get fired. Its also a good thing nothing she did in her acting career could be considered art.I would also like to point out that the same peckerheads that defend firing her are the same peckerheads that go "You should just enjoy the art without worrying about their politics" when conservatives complain about how 99.9999% of Hollywood openly hates their guts.
And you realize I can’t see that right? When you quote me, all I can see is the very top of my post. I guess you need lessons on how the bunker works. I really hope life is not this difficult for you.I highlighted exactly what I was responding to. I’m sorry this is so difficult for you. Again, I’m not the least bit surprised you have to have your hand held all the way through this.
No, it actually sounds like you need lessons. Again, I'm sorry this is so hard for you. May god have mercy on your poor soul.And you realize I can’t see that right? When you quote me, all I can see is the very top of my post. I guess you need lessons on how the bunker works. I really hope life is not this difficult for you.
I can’t imagine struggling through life like you struggle on here. And I can’t imagine being this upset just because you’re wrong...yet again.No, it actually sounds like you need lessons. Again, I'm sorry this is so hard for you. May god have mercy on your poor soul.
Truedemocrats ar eroughly 30% of the population also but 95% of the media. that's the trick that was used so effectivley in 1938
I'm no the one who's upset. Your failure is well documented. Better luck next time. Clearly you'll need it.I can’t imagine struggling through life like you struggle on here. And I can’t imagine being this upset just because you’re wrong...yet again.
So you think we're at danger of targeting people who have certain political views, physically attacking them, rounding them up to torture, starve and kill?who trivialized it? She sounds like she is well aware of it and how it started and wants to make people aware of it to prevent another one
Y'all got all the leftist butt buddies fired up now. I love how they will always argue for less and less freedom versus freedom and more freedom.Gina Carano is not even remotely comparable to college professors who are, in the case of state schools, government employees and thus there are 1st Amendment implications to penalizing their speech. I really find it hard to believe that so many people struggle to understand that the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with private companies and only applies to the government.
Here is a handy flow chart for all of the folks up in arms over how this is an example of "free speech" violations or unfair application of the 1st amendment.
Dude just quit. You lost...again. I’m sure you’re use to it.I'm no the one who's upset. Your failure is well documented. Better luck next time. Clearly you'll need it.
He didn’t say anything about social media. I also quantified my post by saying “Or at least, don’t participate”. How hard is that to understand? Keep trying though smooth brain.
Yikes yikes yikes.Dude just quit. You lost...again. I’m sure you’re use to it.
He's having a rough time. No signs of stopping either. God bless him.Yes, you actually did. You said most aren’t on it or participate in it. He showed you 73% do. If you’re on social media, you are participating in it, dumbass. You may be dumber than aler.
They pretty much proved her case right by canceling her. Meanwhile, Nick Cannon said much worse and he's doing fine. He didn't lose a thing.
In the most shocking development ever, this thread turned into a shitshow once the usual suspects showed up.
And you realize I can’t see that right? When you quote me, all I can see is the very top of my post. I guess you need lessons on how the bunker works. I really hope life is not this difficult for you.
You’re a loudmouthYou're a dumb son of a bitch
so to be clear every employer should be able to fire anyone based on political thought , race, creed or religion. that is what you are advocating. If disney can do as they please shouldn't all companies. the law needs to be applied evenly
You don't know what the first amendment says! Read it!
The 1st Amendment has nothing to do with private companies. Carano is still free to rant and rave about any delusional conspiracy she likes. She just doesn't get to represent Disney while doing so as they are free to not employee people who embarrass their brand by pushing deranged conspiracies. Why is that such a difficult concept for people to grasp?
That's also incorrect. The "spirit' of the Constitution also has nothing to do with private companies. That's why the founders made it crystal clear that the 1st Amendment only applies to the government. This situation is a great example of how free speech in our country works. Anyone is free to say anything they want without any penalty from the government provided they aren't committing a crime. Meanwhile, private companies are also free to not employee anyone they like if they think their speech is damaging to their brand. If Gina Carano was an Islamic extremist pushing a violent conspiracy theory that called for the murder of American elected officials, no one ITT would be complaining about Disney deciding not to renew her contract. The only hypocrisy at play ITT is from folks who think people they agree with should be allowed to say anything they like without any consequences.I understand. I guess my arguments are more about the general hypocrisy of such a stance not so much the legal maneuvering one has to perform in order to technically be right. IMO, the spirit of the constitution is broken if not the legal language.
A person once said, “I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than being morally right.” (Hint: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-NY)
The National SOCIALIST Party otherwise known as NAZIS didn’t start out by sending Jews to the ovens. First they had to demonize them. That is the stage the media and cancel culture is in now. Worse is coming. That is what I think she is saying.
Correct. My company has made that perfectly clear.This. You get a dream job and can make millions of dollars. In exchange you agree not to damage your company's brand and follow their rules. Don't like it? Get fired!
Gina Carano is not even remotely comparable to college professors who are, in the case of state schools, government employees and thus there are 1st Amendment implications to penalizing their speech. I really find it hard to believe that so many people struggle to understand that the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with private companies and only applies to the government.
Here is a handy flow chart for all of the folks up in arms over how this is an example of "free speech" violations or unfair application of the 1st amendment.
Repubs 'offered to remove Greene from her committees'? When and where? I need to see proof of that. Everything I saw was that they refused to do so. I agree they removed Steve King and felt like they would do the same with Greene, but I read that they refused.Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib would suggest otherwise... they have been blatantly anti-Semitic for as long as they have been in elected office and instead of facing any kind of repercussions, they still sit on all of their committees and exhibit quite a bit of influence for the future of their party. The left rewards these members for whatever reason. We have actually seen Republicans remove members of their own party from committee assignments for bigoted speech... (Steve King) and Republicans offered to remove the crazy lady Greene from her committees but instead the Dems decided to do the literally unprecedented and remove her themselves instead of letting the minority party choose to appoint who they want onto committees.
There is a clear double-standard.
...as is evidenced by Disney remaining totally silent on Terry Moran who compared Trump to Hitler.
Repubs 'offered to remove Greene from her committees'? When and where? I need to see proof of that. Everything I saw was that they refused to do so. I agree they removed Steve King and felt like they would do the same with Greene, but I read that they refused.
That's not what she said. She was talking about before the holocaust. The very seeds of hate that were promoted socially that led to the holocaust decades later (it's not a solid comparison imo). It was a bad move on her part but when people started bullying her on Twitter, it kind of proved her point.So, they proved that being a conservative is the same as being a Jew during the Holocaust by not renewing her contract???
And, Disney/Lucas films didn't do anything to Nick Cannon for saying much worse? Did I get all that right??? What should Disney have done to Nick??? What does that have to do with the price of thinly veiled tea in China?
People in general, typically get cancelled for all kinds of stuff these days, (and some of it is really stupid), but I don't know that you thought this all the way through.
What was done to Ilhan Omar, the biggest anti-Semite in congress? ZERO. And she has made several statements and tropes, not just one. She does a BS "sorry" and all is forgiven. Good grief.
Panther I get that. But it all comes down to what is "negatively associated". As many point out, we are currently in a sharply divided nation. What one side considers correct, the other side considers morally reprehensible.I worked in corporate marketing before, believe me you don’t want to have anything negatively associated with your brand, especially when you’re publicly traded. Plus we don’t know what they know about the demographics of their fan base. What happened with Goya likely will not happen with all.
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Wasn't talking to you .. and I didn't say $hit about the person you reference above. @brazilnut said that republicans offered to strip Greene of her committees, and I said I need to see evidence of that as I believe that is untrue. So..... Go merrily TF on your way and don't' good grief' me..
Inciting a riot to storm the US Capitol building and prevent the confirmation of a democratic election will typically draw those types of comparisons. OopsPrivate companies have a right to do what they want.
Disney doesn't want to piss off the mob simple as that.
With that said....
The woke leftism is clearly in control of the culture and social media.
Nick Cannon was literally just hired back by CBS, and he flat out said white people are savages. As mentioned her own co-star compared Trump policies to to Nazi Germany and nothing was done.
How many times has the media compared Trump and right-wingers to Nazism? How many members of the media have shamed anyone who voted for Trump and said they should not be "forgiven." Yet that kind of speech is not only accepted but applauded.
Privates companies can do whatever they want, but politics and business are affected by culture and I think there is a pretty big double standard in the culture today.
That’s it. Everything you do is as generic and neutral as morally possible. Most people get it and do it pretty well, actually.Panther I get that. But it all comes down to what is "negatively associated". As many point out, we are currently in a sharply divided nation. What one side considers correct, the other side considers morally reprehensible.
So, how do you navigate that landscape if you are a corporate marketer? Pick the route that offends the fewest people? I don't know the answer, I'm just asking.
Soooo. Anyone who voted for that guy is a Nazi? Are you serious man? So is every Dem an anarchist based on Antifa and those goofs out in Portland? So we have 74 million Nazis in our country? Holy chit man. Let's round them up!Inciting a riot to storm the US Capitol building and prevent the confirmation of a democratic election will typically draw those types of comparisons. Oops
I was referencing the Trump/Nazi comparisons. But you go ahead and use whatever straw man you feel promotes your viewpoint better. Its nothing new here.Soooo. Anyone who voted for that guy is a Nazi? Are you serious man? So is every Dem an anarchist based on Antifa and those goofs out in Portland?