With great regularity, the NFL team draft geniuses and GM's put their sheer mortality, mediocrity, cowardice and folly on display once 1-2 years of NFL play following the draft settles in on the top 10-15 overall picks. This year's draft, the Panthers, Houston, Arizona, Colts, and Seahawks brain trusts will likely be affected by the notion, "which player if I PASS on and I'm wrong, will I get KILLED over? Or fired." The analytics, politics of camp evaluations, and inability to accurately project college talent's leap to the League, makes failure a grim reality.
That player is to me, Bryce Young, and to a degree, with strong basis. He's been groomed against the best of the best defenses in CFB. He's singlehandedly won games (see Texas - he doesn't dodge that CB blitz, Longhorns win. Also see the 2021 Iron Bowl final regular season drive, notwithstanding refs not calling TWO holds and TWO intentional groundings).
But I just think Young's diminutive height, and tendency to get dinged up, will in the end prevent him fulfilling his full NFL potential. I could, of course, be proven the moron on that take, so best wishes to Bryce.
See this article below on how Patrick Mahomes! was passed by NINE mostly moronic team draft experts and GM's in 2017. No criticism for No. 1 overall pick, DE Myles Garrett, but QB Mitch Trubisky 2nd overall, hahahaha. He'll be backup at the Steelers this season. Now, there's a chicken, and there's an egg here - it's likely that precisely BECAUSE of Mahomes going to a strong franchise like the Chiefs, CAUSED him to fully reach his ultra high "ceiling", as compared to the Panthers disassembling the great Cam Newton over 3-4 years. The Chiefs made a major move to land Mahomes. They were originally armed with the 27th pick in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft, but the Bills agreed to send them the 10th overall selection in exchange for the 27th pick, a third-round selection that year and a first-round pick in 2018.
I'm not going to be shocked if 1-2 years from now, we're telling the same 'what if' story about QB Anthony Richardson. 6' 4", 244. The new model of the "extra RB" at QB in the NFL, a la Gus and Cam in 2010, Gus and Nick 2013, with a far higher IQ NFL OC implementation of this, which mitigates at least some of the injury risk.
Problem is, GM's don't wanna get fired for drafting a Richardson who's a BUST (could be if Go Gatuh is prologue) and passing Young, Stroud, or Levis will get yo a$$ fired.
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Why nine teams passed on Patrick Mahomes in the 2017 NFL Draft, opening door for Chiefs to get a star QB
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Jacob Camenker
09/15/2022•11 min read
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The 2017 NFL Draft class wasn't considered to be particularly strong at quarterback when it first occurred. Five years later, it is now known for producing one of the best signal-callers in the NFL.
Yes, Patrick Mahomes was one of the three quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft. Not much was made of the selection at the time, as it was made out to be a boom-or-bust pick by the Chiefs as they hunted for a successor to Alex Smith.
Suffice to say, the pick certainly boomed.
Mahomes has become one of the NFL's best QBs and has already appeared in two Super Bowls in four full years as a starter. He won one of them and also took home the NFL MVP award for 2018 after he threw for 5,097 yards and 50 touchdowns in his first full season as a starter.
Mahomes has been an excellent pro, and in retrospect, it is shocking that he lasted until the 10th pick in the 2017 draft. How did Mahomes last that long, and why? Here's a look at the nine players who were selected before him as well as a scouting report on him from the time he was drafted.
Patrick Mahomes scouting report
Mahomes was considered to be one of the best quarterback prospects in the 2017 NFL Draft class, but he never really got much buzz as the potential No. 1 overall pick. Instead, he largely found himself behind Mitch Trubisky in mock draft rankings, though many were enamored with his skill set.
Mahomes showed off a massive arm during his college days at Texas Tech and he was one of the most productive quarterbacks in the country. He threw for 5,052 yards and 41 touchdowns during his last season with the Red Raiders before going pro.
Some questioned whether Mahomes' production a product of Texas Tech's Air Raid offense. They also wondered how he would perform in a pro-style offense at the next level and whether his shot-taking, gunslinger mentality would cause him to be turnover-prone at the next level.
Still, he had everything teams were looking for in a quarterback. That included solid size at 6-3, the biggest arm in that draft class and plus mobility that allowed him to make plays on the move.
NFL.com's Lance Zierlein called Mahomes a "high ceiling, low floor prospect" in his scouting report ahead of the 2017 draft.
Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect.
Zierlein's report wasn't far off on Mahomes, but his pro-player comparison undersold him a bit. He compared Mahomes to former Bears and Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler.
Given that comparison, Mahomes has vastly exceeded his expectations through five full NFL seasons.
How the Saints almost landed Patrick Mahomes
The Chiefs made a major move to land Mahomes. They were originally armed with the 27th pick in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft, but the Bills agreed to send them the 10th overall selection in exchange for the 27th pick, a third-round selection that year and a first-round pick in 2018.
The moves worked out well for both teams. The Chiefs landed Mahomes while the Bills were able to get Tre'Davious White, one of the NFL's best cornerbacks, with the 27th pick they acquired from the Chiefs. They were then able to parlay their multiple first-round picks in the 2018 NFL Draft into a trade-up to land Josh Allen.
That said, Mahomes very nearly ended up on a different team. If not for the Chiefs-Bills trade, the Saints would have snapped up the quarterback, who had a fan in head coach Sean Payton.
"He was the best I ever evaluated coming out of college. And there's a gap between the next one," Payton said of Mahomes to Fox Sports' Colin Cowherd. "He's that good."
That player is to me, Bryce Young, and to a degree, with strong basis. He's been groomed against the best of the best defenses in CFB. He's singlehandedly won games (see Texas - he doesn't dodge that CB blitz, Longhorns win. Also see the 2021 Iron Bowl final regular season drive, notwithstanding refs not calling TWO holds and TWO intentional groundings).
But I just think Young's diminutive height, and tendency to get dinged up, will in the end prevent him fulfilling his full NFL potential. I could, of course, be proven the moron on that take, so best wishes to Bryce.
See this article below on how Patrick Mahomes! was passed by NINE mostly moronic team draft experts and GM's in 2017. No criticism for No. 1 overall pick, DE Myles Garrett, but QB Mitch Trubisky 2nd overall, hahahaha. He'll be backup at the Steelers this season. Now, there's a chicken, and there's an egg here - it's likely that precisely BECAUSE of Mahomes going to a strong franchise like the Chiefs, CAUSED him to fully reach his ultra high "ceiling", as compared to the Panthers disassembling the great Cam Newton over 3-4 years. The Chiefs made a major move to land Mahomes. They were originally armed with the 27th pick in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft, but the Bills agreed to send them the 10th overall selection in exchange for the 27th pick, a third-round selection that year and a first-round pick in 2018.
I'm not going to be shocked if 1-2 years from now, we're telling the same 'what if' story about QB Anthony Richardson. 6' 4", 244. The new model of the "extra RB" at QB in the NFL, a la Gus and Cam in 2010, Gus and Nick 2013, with a far higher IQ NFL OC implementation of this, which mitigates at least some of the injury risk.
Problem is, GM's don't wanna get fired for drafting a Richardson who's a BUST (could be if Go Gatuh is prologue) and passing Young, Stroud, or Levis will get yo a$$ fired.
E5
Why nine teams passed on Patrick Mahomes in the 2017 NFL Draft, opening door for Chiefs to get a star QB
Jacob Camenker
09/15/2022•11 min read
For the full read on the 2017 Draft, go HERE: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...hiefs-2017-nfl-draft/i880cg6p8xumjacoqmb8i0v5
The 2017 NFL Draft class wasn't considered to be particularly strong at quarterback when it first occurred. Five years later, it is now known for producing one of the best signal-callers in the NFL.
Yes, Patrick Mahomes was one of the three quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft. Not much was made of the selection at the time, as it was made out to be a boom-or-bust pick by the Chiefs as they hunted for a successor to Alex Smith.
Suffice to say, the pick certainly boomed.
Mahomes has become one of the NFL's best QBs and has already appeared in two Super Bowls in four full years as a starter. He won one of them and also took home the NFL MVP award for 2018 after he threw for 5,097 yards and 50 touchdowns in his first full season as a starter.
Mahomes has been an excellent pro, and in retrospect, it is shocking that he lasted until the 10th pick in the 2017 draft. How did Mahomes last that long, and why? Here's a look at the nine players who were selected before him as well as a scouting report on him from the time he was drafted.
Patrick Mahomes scouting report
Mahomes was considered to be one of the best quarterback prospects in the 2017 NFL Draft class, but he never really got much buzz as the potential No. 1 overall pick. Instead, he largely found himself behind Mitch Trubisky in mock draft rankings, though many were enamored with his skill set.
Mahomes showed off a massive arm during his college days at Texas Tech and he was one of the most productive quarterbacks in the country. He threw for 5,052 yards and 41 touchdowns during his last season with the Red Raiders before going pro.
Some questioned whether Mahomes' production a product of Texas Tech's Air Raid offense. They also wondered how he would perform in a pro-style offense at the next level and whether his shot-taking, gunslinger mentality would cause him to be turnover-prone at the next level.
Still, he had everything teams were looking for in a quarterback. That included solid size at 6-3, the biggest arm in that draft class and plus mobility that allowed him to make plays on the move.
NFL.com's Lance Zierlein called Mahomes a "high ceiling, low floor prospect" in his scouting report ahead of the 2017 draft.
Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect.
Zierlein's report wasn't far off on Mahomes, but his pro-player comparison undersold him a bit. He compared Mahomes to former Bears and Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler.
Given that comparison, Mahomes has vastly exceeded his expectations through five full NFL seasons.
How the Saints almost landed Patrick Mahomes
The Chiefs made a major move to land Mahomes. They were originally armed with the 27th pick in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft, but the Bills agreed to send them the 10th overall selection in exchange for the 27th pick, a third-round selection that year and a first-round pick in 2018.
The moves worked out well for both teams. The Chiefs landed Mahomes while the Bills were able to get Tre'Davious White, one of the NFL's best cornerbacks, with the 27th pick they acquired from the Chiefs. They were then able to parlay their multiple first-round picks in the 2018 NFL Draft into a trade-up to land Josh Allen.
That said, Mahomes very nearly ended up on a different team. If not for the Chiefs-Bills trade, the Saints would have snapped up the quarterback, who had a fan in head coach Sean Payton.
"He was the best I ever evaluated coming out of college. And there's a gap between the next one," Payton said of Mahomes to Fox Sports' Colin Cowherd. "He's that good."
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