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In case you are curious where all the demand came from:


Highlights:
* When HCQ failed to work, anti-vax types went to work, trying to find other therapeutics.
* Took a teleheath system associated with "America's FrontLine Doctors" to kick start the use of it.
* America's Frontline Doctors were the original HCQ proponents ... also believe that ovarian cysts come from having sex with demons.
* Spokeperson for America's Frontline Doctors (Simone Gold) has been indicted for her involvement in the Jan 6 Riots.


... and scene.
 
In case you are curious where all the demand came from:


Highlights:
* When HCQ failed to work, anti-vax types went to work, trying to find other therapeutics.
* Took a teleheath system associated with "America's FrontLine Doctors" to kick start the use of it.
* America's Frontline Doctors were the original HCQ proponents ... also believe that ovarian cysts come from having sex with demons.
* Spokeperson for America's Frontline Doctors (Simone Gold) has been indicted for her involvement in the Jan 6 Riots.


... and scene.

Anything but the vaccine!!!! Sad.
 
In case you are curious where all the demand came from:


Highlights:
* When HCQ failed to work, anti-vax types went to work, trying to find other therapeutics.
* Took a teleheath system associated with "America's FrontLine Doctors" to kick start the use of it.
* America's Frontline Doctors were the original HCQ proponents ... also believe that ovarian cysts come from having sex with demons.
* Spokeperson for America's Frontline Doctors (Simone Gold) has been indicted for her involvement in the Jan 6 Riots.


... and scene.

CreedMon, this type of misinformation is wrong too. It's just misinformation from the "other" side. Were you aware that Ivermectin is a human medicine that has been prescribed all around the world, for many years? That it's touted as a "miracle drug" for parasitic infections?

1) In your opinion, would it be a good thing if we actually came across a cheap repurposed drug that we have tons of usage data on, that could help crush this thing???

2) In your opinion, is there ANY chance whatsoever that Ivermectin, or some other such drug might actually be effective against COVID?
 
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In case you are curious where all the demand came from:


Highlights:
* When HCQ failed to work, anti-vax types went to work, trying to find other therapeutics.
* Took a teleheath system associated with "America's FrontLine Doctors" to kick start the use of it.
* America's Frontline Doctors were the original HCQ proponents ... also believe that ovarian cysts come from having sex with demons.
* Spokeperson for America's Frontline Doctors (Simone Gold) has been indicted for her involvement in the Jan 6 Riots.


... and scene.
Thanks for yore fare and balansed perspecktive.
 
Thanks for yore fare and balansed perspecktive.
Sitting just below the veneer of "but, look at these Ivermectin studies from all these random countries" or "but they gave it to Joe Rogan!" is tinfoil hat / conspiracy land ... where people are convinced that Ivermectin actually works and the reason that it's not being given a fair shake is because #bigpharma can't make as much money with it ... so they are intentionally / systematically suppressing it.
 
Sitting just below the veneer of "but, look at these Ivermectin studies from all these random countries" or "but they gave it to Joe Rogan!" is tinfoil hat / conspiracy land ... where people are convinced that Ivermectin actually works and the reason that it's not being given a fair shake is because #bigpharma can't make as much money with it ... so they are intentionally / systematically suppressing it.

Everybody knows that it is UNPOSSIBLE for any other drug or technology to help fight COVID. The ONLY thing on earth that works against COVID is the new vaccines.

Also, please respond to the questions above that I'd asked you.
 
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CreedMon, this type of misinformation is wrong too. It's not just misinformation from the other side. Were you aware that Ivermectin is a human medicine that's prescribed all around the world, for many years.

1) In your opinion, would it be a good thing if we actually came across a cheap repurposed drug that we have tons of usage data on, that could help crush this thing???

2) In your opinion, is there ANY chance whatsoever that Ivermectin, or some other such drug might actually be effective against COVID?

@Creed Monster. Are you going to answer the questions above??? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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CreedMon, this type of misinformation is wrong too. It's not just misinformation from the other side. Were you aware that Ivermectin is a human medicine that's prescribed all around the world, for many years.

1) In your opinion, would it be a good thing if we actually came across a cheap repurposed drug that we have tons of usage data on, that could help crush this thing???

2) In your opinion, is there ANY chance whatsoever that Ivermectin, or some other such drug might actually be effective against COVID?

You lost me at "this type of misinformation". Ivermectin has had human uses, but not as an anti-viral.

1) Yes.

2) Some other such drug, maybe. I don't think it has been discovered yet for COVID.

I don't know this as fact, but my money says that Ivermectin is probably part of the "kitchen sink" regimen and not something that most medical professionals (that have prescribed it ... small as they are) are doing with any level of expectation.

My view: Ivermectin is silly to use for COVID. You have vaccine that has OVERWHELMING evidence of efficacy and yet there are people that, while viewing that mountain of data, will say "nah, I'll take my chances with Ivermectin."

It's ludicrous. It's non-sensical. It comes from ignorance, distrust in the medical field, and a general contrarian / pseudo-individualist "I know what's best for me" politic. Furthermore, it's more "sheeple" than the "vaccine bros" because it isn't based on data (hell, it's not even about data) ... it's about surrounding yourself with other like-minded "individuals" so you can feel like you're part of something, some inside intel that the deep state doesn't want you to know about.

It's post-modernistic bullshit.
 
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You lost me at "this type of misinformation". Ivermectin has had human uses, but not as an anti-viral.

1) Yes.

2) Some other such drug, maybe. I don't think it has been discovered yet for COVID.

I don't know this as fact, but my money says that Ivermectin is probably part of the "kitchen sink" regimen and not something that most medical professionals (that have prescribed it ... small as they are) are doing with any level of expectation.

My view: Ivermectin is silly to use for COVID. You have vaccine that has OVERWHELMING evidence of efficacy and yet there are people that, while viewing that mountain of data, will say "nah, I'll take my chances with Ivermectin."

It's ludicrous. It's non-sensical. It comes from ignorance, distrust in the medical field, and a general contrarian / pseudo-individualist "I know what's best for me" politic. Furthermore, it's more "sheeple" than the "vaccine bros" because it isn't based on data (hell, it's not even about data) ... it's about surrounding yourself with other like-minded "individuals" so you can feel like you're part of something, some inside intel that the deep state doesn't want you to know about.

It's post-modernistic bullshit.

Everyone should go back and look at your OP. It's FULL ON misinformation, just from the "other side" of this thing, (and it's SO silly that folks have allowed themselves to be manipulated into "vaccinated" versus "unvaccinated" camps resulting in stupid, unproductive partisan type pissing matches, at a time where we should all be working together to resolve and get through this pandemic).

  • You started off posting a tweet with a picture of a horse, furthering the silly misimpression/lie, that it is primarily a veterinary medicine used for horses and cows, NOT humans, when in reality, it's used for humans, and won it's discoverers a Nobel prize. It's been FDA approved forever, and touted as a "miracle drug".
  • Then you continue the hit job and misinformation by saying "When HCQ failed to work", and positioning it clearly as a tool of the "unvaccinated". Those enemies of ours who are all quacks and anti-science types.
  • The whole bit with "tele medics" who believe that having sex with demons etc., essentially using a broad brush to paint an entire classification of doctors, with the opinion of a single doctor from Africa, where beliefs, and other experiences are drastically different from ours. The entire group of doctors who'd prescribe it, do NOT deserve to be painted with the comments of a single doctor who advocated with HCQ, (which likely was never properly studied or published accurately, as any drug deemed to be effective would have interfered with, or eliminated the approval of an EUA altogether, (so, that would have meant no mRNA vaccines).
  • You then post another super petty unrelated incident involving a single doctor, and try to associate his personal actions as the attitude of an group. It's just a cheap attempt to discredit all doctors that are members of the group, and/or any doctor who'd prescribe an alternative to the vaccines, (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin et. al.), as quacks and anti-science types.

I'm NOT touting Ivermectin as a cure for COVID, or even advocating that people use it, but it's black hole stupid for use to not at least give viable candidates like this an honest evaluation if many other doctors around the world using them noticed that those who were taking the drugs, seemed to fare better.

Why aren't relatively intelligent and informed people able to see that it's not necessarily a mutually exclusive, either or proposition where it's the vaccine OR some other tool/weapon/drug like Ivermectin that could help? It's important for us to be honest, operate with full disclosure, and a HUGE part of that is understanding that misinformation that is pro-vaccine is still misinformation. It's all part of a HUGE bullying effort involving massive peer pressure and rather extreme censorship to force everyone to use a single option..... the mRNA vaccines.

We are in a climate now that's super cocked, spun and so far from the truth, that most only consider anti-vaccine misinformation, as misinformation and completely fail to recognize that pro-vaccine propaganda and misinformation is just as bad, (not to mention how super hypocritical it is to CRYYYYY to high heaven about misinformation, while bullying, deleting and canceling all other information that doesn't follow the narrative, whether it's truly misinformation or not, all the while pumping loads of steaming pro-vaccine misinformation). I do tip my hat to you sir, for coming back and answering the questions like a man/stand-up guy. That's far better than many who are out here doing dirt, but then run and hide when they have been CLEARLY proven to be dead wrong about something they were pumping for months.

Lastly, I have empathy for those struggling with their decisions, because it's absolutely NOT a no-brainer to take a new vaccine that works the way this one does, without us having ANY DATA whatsoever for any life cycle phase, except the immediate, short-term. You cannot do real science without data, so we should be honest and qualify our information as such. It's new, we don't have usage data for the mid-term and long-term and therefore, it represents a HE-UUuuuge gamble for mankind to put all of our eggs in one basket and administer this to the majority of humanity, all at the same time. That's not solid science, and does not qualify as solid, common sense.
 
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it's black hole stupid for use to not at least give it an honest evaluation

It HAS been evaluated (and as was shared by others, including doctors on this site) and any reputable study has shown that it doesn't work. It doesn't. If you become infected with COVID and are treated with Ivermectin (AND you eat toast every day), data says the toast is just as likely to have cured you.

I'm legitimately tired of you ignoring docs on this board, much less others that have shared from docs that aren't on this board, that say over and over and over again that it doesn't work ... not to mention the numerous medical groups, associations, hospitals, drug manufacturers, etc. that say it doesn't work ... you don't trust them anyway (post-modernism, what's truth, #bigpharma, etc.)

it's SO silly that folks have allowed themselves to be manipulated into "vaccinated" versus "unvaccinated" camps resulting in stupid, unproductive partisan type pissing matches

There aren't camps ... because vaccines actually work and there is a literal effing' MOUNTAIN of data to confirm this. It isn't even REMOTELY comparable. It's like comparing a fancy steak dinner to Taco Bell at 3am. It's laughable.

The only people that are pushing Ivermectin are conspiracy nut-jobs and social media hacks that are it it for the likes.

I don't care about your analysis of what I shared. Also, I've seen enough of these damn FLCCC documents floating around on Facebook from people that I used to respect.

How to be an Ivermectin truther: ... ignore mountains of reputable data, find some nurse or functional doctor or podcaster that says there's another way ... circle the wagons ... post on Facebook ... collect believers ... repeat.
 
Everyone should go back and look at your OP. It's FULL ON misinformation, just from the "other side" of this thing, (and it's SO silly that folks have allowed themselves to be manipulated into "vaccinated" versus "unvaccinated" camps resulting in stupid, unproductive partisan type pissing matches, at a time where we should all be working together to resolve and get through this pandemic).

  • You started off posting a tweet with a picture of a horse, furthering the silly misimpression/lie, that it is primarily a veterinary medicine used for horses and cows, NOT humans, when in reality, it's used for humans, and won it's discoveries a Nobel prize. It's been FDA approved forever, and touted as a "miracle drug".
  • Then you continue the hit job and misinformation by saying "When HCQ failed to work", and positioning it clearly as a tool of the "unvaccinated". Those enemies of ours who are all quacks and anti-science types.
  • The whole bit with "tele medics" who believe that having sex with demons etc., essentially using a broad brush to paint an entire classification of doctors, with the opinion of a single doctor from Africa, where beliefs, and other experiences are drastically different from ours. The entire group of doctors who'd prescribe it, do NOT deserve to be painted with the comments of a single doctor who advocated with HCQ, (which likely was never properly studied or published accurately, as any drug deemed to be effective would have interfered with, or eliminated the approval of an EUA altogether, (so, that would have meant no mRNA vaccines).
  • You then post another super petty, unrelated incident of a single doctor associated with a group, as a cheap attempt to discredit any doctor that is a member of the group, and/or any doctor who'd prescribe an alternative to the vaccines, (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin et. al.).

I'm NOT touting it as a cure for COVID, or even advocating that people use it, but it's black hole stupid for use to not at least give it an honest evaluation if many other doctors around the world where it's commonly prescribed, noticed that those who were taking it, seemed to fare better.

Why aren't relatively intelligent and informed people able to see that it's not necessarily a mutually exclusive, either or proposition where it's the vaccine OR some other tool/weapon/drug like Ivermectin that could help? It's important for us to be honest, operate with full disclosure, and a HUGE part of that is understanding that misinformation that is pro-vaccine is still misinformation. It's all part of a HUGE bullying effort involving massive peer pressure and rather extreme censorship.

We are in a climate now that's so cocked, spun and so far from the truth, that most only consider anti-vaccine misinformation, as misinformation and completely fail to recognize that pro-vaccine propaganda and misinformation is just as bad, (not to mention how super hypocritical it is to CRYYYYY to high heaven about misinformation, while bullying, deleting and canceling anti-vaccine misinformation, all the while pumping loads of steaming pro-vaccine misinformation). I do tip my hat to you sir, for coming back and answering like a man/stand-up guy. That's far better than many who are out here doing dirt, but then run and hide when they have been CLEARLY proven to be dead wrong about something they were pumping for months.

Lastly, I have empathy for those struggling with their decisions, because it's absolutely NOT a no-brainer to take a new vaccine that works the way this one does, without us having ANY DATA whatsoever for any life cycle phase, except the immediate, short-term. You cannot do real science without data, so we should be honest and qualify our information as such. It's new, we don't have usage data for the mid-term and long-term and therefore, it represents a HE-UUuuuge gamble for mankind to put all of our eggs in one basket and administer this to the majority of humanity, all at the same time. That's not solid science, and does not qualify as solid, common sense.
So much yikes.. Just give it up man.
 
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You lost me at "this type of misinformation". Ivermectin has had human uses, but not as an anti-viral.

1) Yes.

2) Some other such drug, maybe. I don't think it has been discovered yet for COVID.

I don't know this as fact, but my money says that Ivermectin is probably part of the "kitchen sink" regimen and not something that most medical professionals (that have prescribed it ... small as they are) are doing with any level of expectation.

My view: Ivermectin is silly to use for COVID. You have vaccine that has OVERWHELMING evidence of efficacy and yet there are people that, while viewing that mountain of data, will say "nah, I'll take my chances with Ivermectin."

It's ludicrous. It's non-sensical. It comes from ignorance, distrust in the medical field, and a general contrarian / pseudo-individualist "I know what's best for me" politic. Furthermore, it's more "sheeple" than the "vaccine bros" because it isn't based on data (hell, it's not even about data) ... it's about surrounding yourself with other like-minded "individuals" so you can feel like you're part of something, some inside intel that the deep state doesn't want you to know about.

It's post-modernistic bullshit.

Maybe you should tell the NIH and researchers that....


And not effective? Maybe you should tell researchers tthat:

 
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If you want to take horse meds, that's your choice but don't complain when you end up in a hospital on a respirator and die while you take up bed space that a heart attack victim or a wreck victim could have used. That is your SELFISH right and that''s what's wrong with our country today and will be our eventual downfall. Selfishness, greed, corruption, lies, misinformation and fear mongering and lack of empathy. Unless you are both blind and stupid, you can already see it happening.
 
If you want to take horse meds, that's your choice but don't complain when you end up in a hospital on a respirator and die while you take up bed space that a heart attack victim or a wreck victim could have used. That is your SELFISH right and that''s what's wrong with our country today and will be our eventual downfall. Selfishness, greed, corruption, lies, misinformation and fear mongering and lack of empathy. Unless you are both blind and stupid, you can already see it happening.

You calling a nobel prize winning drug "horse meds" and criticizing others for misinformation and being stupid...

Gawd, I love sweet irony.
 
If you want to take horse meds, that's your choice but don't complain when you end up in a hospital on a respirator and die while you take up bed space that a heart attack victim or a wreck victim could have used. That is your SELFISH right and that''s what's wrong with our country today and will be our eventual downfall. Selfishness, greed, corruption, lies, misinformation and fear mongering and lack of empathy. Unless you are both blind and stupid, you can already see it happening.

It's truly NOT a veterinary medicine. It was created and developed for human use, and is prescribed ALL around the world for humans. It won it's creators a Nobel prize.

It's EXTREME ignorance to believe that it's primarily an animal medicine, (even though they begin using it for horses and cows and found that it works for them too). The type of hyper-ignorance that you and others displayed regarding this "miracle drug", is a result of the massive misinformation campaign that's being waged by the leading authorities in order to force everyone to the mRNA vaccines.

It's also stupid to buy into the narrative that COVID patients have somehow been "selfish" and don't deserve healthcare equally compared to heart attack and wreck victims. They didn't cause this pandemic through selfishness, so it's STUPID to allow yourself to be manipulated into believing that they are somehow to blame. None of us choose to get infected, (though some of us are irresponsible in not wearing masks, and not following good common sense guidance and best practices to help ensure we don't get COVID). Therefore, the unvaccinated deserve healthcare at the same rate and level as anyone else. People are allowing themselves to be brainwashed and hoodwinked like simps.

Taking a COMPLETELY NEW/NOVEL drug or vaccine into your body, for which we have NO data for the mid or long term, and therefore cannot scientifically speak to all of it's mechanisms in the body, means that it is NOT a no-brainer decision. If the authorities really only cared about reaching herd immunity, (which we may not be able to do, no matter how many people are vaccinated), they would do the simple thing and develop another vaccine based on the tried and true, traditional vaccine technology, instead of trying to trick and force everyone into taking the mRNA vaccine.
 
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It's truly NOT a veterinary medicine. It was created and developed for human use, and is prescribed ALL around the world for humans. It won it's creators a Nobel prize.

It's EXTREME ignorance to believe that it's primarily an animal medicine, (even though they begin using it for horses and cows and found that it works for them too). The type of hyper-ignorance that you and others displayed regarding this "miracle drug", is a result of the massive misinformation campaign that's being waged by the leading authorities in order to force everyone to the mRNA vaccines.

It's also stupid to buy into the narrative that COVID patients have somehow been "selfish" and don't deserve healthcare equally compared to heart attack and wreck victims. They didn't cause this pandemic through selfishness, so it's STUPID to allow yourself to be manipulated into believing that they are somehow to blame. None of us choose to get infected, (though some of us are irresponsible in not wearing masks, and not following good common sense guidance and best practices to help ensure we don't get COVID). Therefore, the unvaccinated deserve healthcare at the same rate and level as anyone else. People are allowing themselves to be brainwashed and hoodwinked like simps.

Taking a COMPLETELY NEW/NOVEL drug or vaccine into your body, for which we have NO data for the mid or long term, and therefore cannot scientifically speak to all of it's mechanisms in the body, means that it is NOT a no-brainer decision. If the authorities really only cared about reaching herd immunity, (which we may not be able to do, no matter how many people are vaccinated), they would do the simple thing and develop another vaccine based on the tried and true, traditional vaccine technology, instead of trying to trick and force everyone into taking the mRNA vaccine.
Dude. Lol.

In modern medicine it is primarily for veterinarian use.

To say otherwise is purely a simp think. Did I do that right?

It's such a weird hill you've kicked the bucket on.
 
Dude. Lol.

In modern medicine it is primarily for veterinarian use.

To say otherwise is purely a simp think. Did I do that right?

It's such a weird hill you've kicked the bucket on.

You are definitely wrong. It's still used quite extensively all around the world in under developed countries where parasites are much more of an issue. I believe it was these doctors that noticed that folks who were on it seemed to fare better.

It's amazing that relatively intelligent people can be manipulated into delusion so easily. It's amazing that you would come out here and make that statement based on something that has been referred to as a "miracle drug". You are flat wrong, because you believe the misinformation put out there to brainwash folks.

There are SO many things that have always been positioned in a particular way, that very recently since the pandemic started, they have suddenly been completely re-labeled, re-positioned, and re-defined due to the deceitful narrative associated with this pandemic. If you google, or use another search engine, you can find the old articles, studies and such that clearly show the way things were positioned and defined before the lies and agenda with the pandemic led to recent change. At least Australia admitted in its recent ban of Ivermectin, that they are doing so because they feel it will hurt vaccination efforts. It's just more proof of what I've been saying all along that the authorities are HELL BENT on pushing everyone on earth to the mRNA vaccines and only having one, single solution for this pandemic. They don't want any other effective treatment or solution to come about.
 
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You are definitely wrong. It's still used quite extensively all around the world in under developed countries where parasite are much more of an issue. I believe it was these doctors that noticed that folks who were on it seemed to fare better.

It's amazing that relatively intelligent people can be manipulated into delusion so easily.
It's amazing that you would come out here and make that statement based on something that has been referred to as a "miracle drug". You are flat wrong, because you believe the misinformation put out there to brainwash folks.

There are SO many things that have always been positioned in a particular way, that very recently since the pandemic started, they have suddenly been completely re-labeled, re-positioned, and re-defined due to the deceitful narrative associated with this pandemic. If you google, or use another search engine, you can find the old articles, studies and such that clearly show the way things were positioned and defined before the lies and agenda with the pandemic led to recent change. At least Australia admitted in its recent ban of Ivermectin, that they are doing so because they feel it will hurt vaccination efforts. It's just more proof of what I've been saying all along that the authorities are HELL BENT on pushing everyone on earth to the mRNA vaccines and only having one, single solution for this pandemic. They don't want any other effective treatment or solution to come about.
Ok so you think invermectin isn't being used because big pharma?

Why do you think doctors on this very site are into this conspiracy?



Dude. You're smart. Don't be the person you describe above.
 
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Ok so you think invermectin isn't being used because big pharma?

Why do you think doctors on this very site are into this conspiracy?



Dude. You're smart. Don't be the person you describe above.

No, I don't necessarily think that Big pharma not being able to make money is the PRIMARY reason Ivermectin has been put on the hit list. It's there because the powers that be, only want ONE SOLUTION for the pandemic. They want everyone on earth to take the new mRNA vaccines, and they don't want any other solution to be available, so that the number receiving the vaccine is maximized.

Besides, if ANY alternative drug is found, wouldn't we technically be forced to pull the EUA for the new vaccines??? Therefore, no other drug is likely to be approved.
 
Omg man.

What do you think gonna happen to me bro?

I'm the science experiment. You're the super smart woke thinker.

What's happening up me and the millions of idiots who took the world ending mrna vaccine?
 
Omg man.

What do you think gonna happen to me bro?

I'm the science experiment. You're the super smart woke thinker.

What's happening up me and the millions of idiots who took the world ending mrna vaccine?
Let's put this foolishness to sleep AUBK. It's clear that you aren't at all about engaging in debate, nor do you have anything to counter my two cents of opinion, so let's just drop it and move on.

Either you are missing the points altogether, or you get them and have no way to refute them, so you just want folks to shut up so that any truth that is being suppressed doesn't get discussed.

I believe in full disclosure, and folks being allowed to make informed decisions, and you don't. End of story in a nutshell.
 
No, I don't necessarily think that Big pharma not being able to make money is the PRIMARY reason Ivermectin has been put on the hit list. It's there because the powers that be, only want ONE SOLUTION for the pandemic. They want everyone on earth to take the new mRNA vaccines, and they don't want any other solution to be available, so that the number receiving the vaccine is maximized.

Besides, if ANY alternative drug is found, wouldn't we technically be forced to pull the EUA for the new vaccines??? Therefore, no other drug is likely to be approved.

Conspiracy alert! Lol
 
If Ivermectin data is a total fallacy why would both the FDA and WHO be doing clinical trials for use as a prophylactic (PCT). A lot of the thought process from this and study started from doctors looking for treatments pre-vaccine. They looked at ithe low incident rate of places already using this drug as an anti-parasitic such African countries. It’s interesting to read those studies. Also the Egyptian study.


 
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Let's put this foolishness to sleep AUBK. It's clear that you aren't at all about engaging in debate, nor do you have anything to counter my two cents of opinion, so let's just drop it and move on.

Either you are missing the points altogether, or you get them and have no way to refute them, so you just want folks to shut up so that any truth that is being suppressed doesn't get discussed.

I believe in full disclosure, and folks being allowed to make informed decisions, and you don't. End of story in a nutshell.
You're a conspiracy theorist, man.

I am not.

End of story in a nutshell.
 
You lost me at "this type of misinformation". Ivermectin has had human uses, but not as an anti-viral.

1) Yes.

2) Some other such drug, maybe. I don't think it has been discovered yet for COVID.

I don't know this as fact, but my money says that Ivermectin is probably part of the "kitchen sink" regimen and not something that most medical professionals (that have prescribed it ... small as they are) are doing with any level of expectation.

My view: Ivermectin is silly to use for COVID. You have vaccine that has OVERWHELMING evidence of efficacy and yet there are people that, while viewing that mountain of data, will say "nah, I'll take my chances with Ivermectin."

It's ludicrous. It's non-sensical. It comes from ignorance, distrust in the medical field, and a general contrarian / pseudo-individualist "I know what's best for me" politic. Furthermore, it's more "sheeple" than the "vaccine bros" because it isn't based on data (hell, it's not even about data) ... it's about surrounding yourself with other like-minded "individuals" so you can feel like you're part of something, some inside intel that the deep state doesn't want you to know about.

It's post-modernistic bullshit.
So, I went to my doctor in Auburn the other day. While I was there, I asked him how he would treat me if I got Covid. Shockingly one of the first drugs he mentioned was Ivermectin. And this is a well known and respected doctor that’s been in Auburn forever.

I have no idea how or why it works, but He reads a lot of studies, and I think he probably knows a lot more about it than you. Just saying.
 
You're a conspiracy theorist, man.

I am not.

End of story in a nutshell.

I am demonstrably not. However, I do NOT like what has been occurring in regards to the extreme censorship, suppression of information, and forcing everyone to a single tool to manage this pandemic, (i.e. the new vaccines). It's wrong, and unintelligent. If there's a good reason for it, tell us, and I'll definitely shut the heck up.
 
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So, I went to my doctor in Auburn the other day. While I was there, I asked him how he would treat me if I got Covid. Shockingly one of the first drugs he mentioned was Ivermectin. And this is a well known and respected doctor that’s been in Auburn forever.

I have no idea how or why it works, but He reads a lot of studies, and I think he probably knows a lot more about it than you. Just saying.

There are definitely docs out there using it. There are many others that aren't (including the ones that post here). I think if it was a miracle cure, you'd have a lot more on board. I think the best course of action is to do all you can to prevent it up front. Then cross that treatment bridge if you have to.
 
I am demonstrably not. However, I do NOT like what has been occurring in regards to the extreme censorship, suppression of information, and forcing everyone to a single tool to manage this pandemic, (i.e. the new vaccines). It's wrong, and unintelligent. If there's a good reason for it, tell us, and I'll definitely shut the heck up.
It has saved countless lives as it is undeniably effective.

That's all folks.
 
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So, I went to my doctor in Auburn the other day. While I was there, I asked him how he would treat me if I got Covid. Shockingly one of the first drugs he mentioned was Ivermectin. And this is a well known and respected doctor that’s been in Auburn forever.

I have no idea how or why it works, but He reads a lot of studies, and I think he probably knows a lot more about it than you. Just saying.

Agree that some doctors are prescribing it ... but I am skeptical that they'd say they are confident it makes a difference. Instead, it lives in the world of "maybe it works, maybe it doesn't ... a low dose for a short period of time is mostly safe."

My frustration with Ivermectin is people swearing that it will keep them safe as they refuse a vaccine.

Did you ask your doctor if he'd recommend Ivermectin over getting vaccinated?

(also, yes, there's little doubt he knows much more than me ... but he's having to handle a lot more issues than just COVID)
 
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It has saved countless lives as it is undeniably effective.

That's all folks.

Unless you're in Israel or Scotland... and are you talking about the vaccine or all the boosters that are necessary because it doesn't provide immunity?

There are a number of studies out showing ivermectin to be effective, especially if treatment begins early. Several have been posted above, but gawd knows I don't expect you to read any of them.
 
Unless you're in Israel or Scotland... and are you talking about the vaccine or all the boosters that are necessary because it doesn't provide immunity?

There are a number of studies out showing ivermectin to be effective, especially if treatment begins early. Several have been posted above, but gawd knows I don't expect you to read any of them.
I don't read invermectin studies because I don't have time.

I talk to my doctor friends a lot tho. They do that reading for a living. I listen to them rather than me because like you, I'm not qualified.

Vaccine, booster or not, is a feat of amazing science that is saving countless lives.

Shut up and be thankful.
 
Unless you're in Israel or Scotland... and are you talking about the vaccine or all the boosters that are necessary because it doesn't provide immunity?
I'm not even debating comments like this anymore. To suggest that the mRNA vaccine has not been a massive success, at this point, is just head-in-sand ignorance.

In one thread, you doubt data that a medical doctor on this board, provides about clear vaccine success in Israel. Now, in this thread, you point to Israel as an example of vaccine failure.
 
I'm not even debating comments like this anymore. To suggest that the mRNA vaccine has not been a massive success, at this point, is just head-in-sand ignorance.

In one thread, you doubt data that a medical doctor on this board, provides about clear vaccine success in Israel. Now, in this thread, you point to Israel as an example of vaccine failure.

you need to go back and read my post. He does post a table but there’s no source on it, i ask for the data or link, and I also ask why is all the information so contradictory. I think it has more to do with some of the underlying assumptions and who sampled and who’s not but I can’t prove it. I don’t dispute what he said, I just want to know why there’s so many contradictory reports out. I know the CDC has done a horrible job with the data and that accounts for a large part of it.
 
It has saved countless lives as it is undeniably effective.

That's all folks.

The vaccines definitely seem to work to reduce severe illness and death, and they definitely appear to be safe in the short-term, (i.e. which is unfortunately, the only life-cycle phase for which we have data on them).

We are all hoping and praying that everything goes swimmingly well, and all the more since we've lost leave of our senses and forced EVERYONE on earth, to that single experimental channel. That is NOT good science, and it's NOT using good logic, rationale or wisdom, but again, we're all betting on it and hoping that we get away with it this time.
 
Just an FYI - got prescription Ivermectin (not the animal stuff), took it prophylactically for 10 days before attending a super spreader event and continued to take it throughout the week I was away and since I’ve been home. 3 milligrams a day.
Only wore a mask on planes and went to 6 concerts, did a tour of Milwaukee via boat - basically behaved as I would have before the pandemic.
So far so good - not even as much as a sniffle, and I have not had the shot.
 
The vaccines definitely seem to work to reduce severe illness and death, and they definitely appear to be safe in the short-term, (i.e. which is unfortunately, the only life-cycle phase for which we have data on them).

We are all hoping and praying that everything goes swimmingly well, and all the more since we've lost leave of our senses and forced EVERYONE on earth, to that single experimental channel. That is NOT good science, and it's NOT using good logic, rationale or wisdom, but again, we're all betting on it and hoping that we get away with it this time.
You don't seem to understand.

Mrna vaccines have been studied for decades.

You're just wrong. Ugh.. I'll go back to not saying anything.
I'm not even debating comments like this anymore. To suggest that the mRNA vaccine has not been a massive success, at this point, is just head-in-sand ignorance.

In one thread, you doubt data that a medical doctor on this board, provides about clear vaccine success in Israel. Now, in this thread, you point to Israel as an example of vaccine failure.

Eagle often posts fake news, chain emails, and even more often, he reads a headline and not an article. He's quite gullible.
 
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