I just don't get it (Seattle)

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Completely terrible for those who are trying to work and provide for their families like normal citizens. For those who are enacting in the demolishment of others properties and use violence to provoke a message, I hope they drop like flies.
 

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Visited there last 2 summers in a row and its a special place regardless of politics. We did Orcas Island and saw Orcas in the wild.. My 7 yr old son lost his fist tooth on a Mariner Dog last summer sat right behind Mariners dugout. Space Needle has epic views of the Puget Sound and Rainier. Its one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited i saw zero cigarette butts the entire time(unlike San Fran which is a dump). People are generally friendly and UW campus is gorgeous. You won't get Snow Crab that fresh outside of Alaska. If ya'll have ever thought of visiting, keep it on your list of places to visit. Wanted to kick a little positivity into this thread. Peace
 
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They are spitting in the faces of their own law abiding citizens. God forbid they defend themselves also. They elected these fools and this is what you get.
 

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You gotta give police tools between the extremes of asking nicely and shooting. Pure idiocy to make those the only two options.
 
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Recipe for disaster. All you can do is watch it burn at this point
 

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Visited there last two summers in a row and its a special place regardless of politics. We did Orcas Island and saw Orcas in the wild.. My 7 yr old son lost his fist tooth on a Mariner Dog last summer sat right behind Mariners dugout. Space Needle has epic views of the Puget Sound and Rainier. Its one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited i saw zero cigarette butts the entire time(unlike Frisco). People are generally friendly and UW campus is gorgeous. You won't get Snow Crab that fresh outside of Alaska. If you've ever thought of visiting, keep it on your list of places to visit despite the current situation. Just want to kick a little positivity into this thread. Peace
I wouldn’t even consider visiting there in the current environment. It’s really a shame.
 

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I can only imagine how expensive business insurance is for that city/area
Why would an insurance company write a policy that included protests? (Or whatever the verbiage that mob violence falls under.)
 

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Just getting ready for more peaceful protests.

Find a way to stop the right wing agitators from coming in from outside areas and the problem will be averted.

Also, that plywood looks a lot like kindling if you tilt your head the right way.
Right. Plywood wouldn't stop a horde trying to destroy your business.
 
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Visited there last 2 summers in a row and its a special place regardless of politics. We did Orcas Island and saw Orcas in the wild.. My 7 yr old son lost his fist tooth on a Mariner Dog last summer sat right behind Mariners dugout. Space Needle has epic views of the Puget Sound and Rainier. Its one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited i saw zero cigarette butts the entire time(unlike San Fran which is a dump). People are generally friendly and UW campus is gorgeous. You won't get Snow Crab that fresh outside of Alaska. If you've ever thought of visiting, keep it on your list of places to visit despite the current situation. Wanted to kick a little positivity into this thread. Peace
I also spent a week in Seattle last Summer. I concur with this. Ate dinner up at Newcastle Golf Course. If you think The Club in Bham has a great view, you need to hit up Newcastle sometime.
 

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When you are too lazy to work and covet others people’s stuff you do what they are doing and call society unjust for not giving you everything you want. The Marxists running the show want to destroy the USA as founded and institute a communist state. The people in the street, the sympathetic media and clueless businesses giving them money are their “useful idiots” and will be liquidated once their use is over. It been the same in all Marxist revolutions. This one is no different.
 

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Democrats being Democrat’s. Love it. I hope the looters burn it all down and loot everything.
 

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Now that the police have said you are on your own. If I were a store owner the mob would not touch my store. At least not while I was alive. I would post signs that people are inside the store. Any attempt to enter the store will be seen as a treat on their life and dealt with according. "DO NOT ENTER" This is not meant to be political statement on the bunker or to start a political discussion. But IMO the longer these is allowed to go on the more force it will take to stop it. Sad.
 

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Visited there last 2 summers in a row and its a special place regardless of politics. We did Orcas Island and saw Orcas in the wild.. My 7 yr old son lost his fist tooth on a Mariner Dog last summer sat right behind Mariners dugout. Space Needle has epic views of the Puget Sound and Rainier. Its one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited i saw zero cigarette butts the entire time(unlike San Fran which is a dump). People are generally friendly and UW campus is gorgeous. You won't get Snow Crab that fresh outside of Alaska. If ya'll have ever thought of visiting, keep it on your list of places to visit. Wanted to kick a little positivity into this thread. Peace
I agree is it such a great city. One of the more fun places to visit. Sad what is being allowed to happen to it.
 

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Right. Plywood wouldn't stop a horde trying to destroy your business.
It’s not. I’ve seen plenty of video and photos of ring wing outside agitators using plywood as fuel for fires as well as throwing it against things and people. These people use skateboards at weapons. Plywood is just a gift for them.

It will take force to stop this. Well that and removing law enforcement since they apparently only provoke these otherwise peaceful people into these acts of violence and destruction.

Barriers, plywood, chain link fencing only temporarily slows the process of destruction down. That may be the best the good people of Seattle can hope for though.
 

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Why would any city want this for the people that call it home or runs a business to support their families?
Just a thought. At no time in history has Communism been the wish of the majority of the people. Yet we've seen it in multiple countries over multiple decades. Why? Because all it takes is a few thousand motivated individuals in the right places to force it through. I feel like my paranoid dad but this is how communism is done. They are literally publicly calling for communism and the media either ignores it or cheers it on.

Welcome to America if things go wrong in November.
. You've got an ultra silent majority this year. Biden will go into this election a 10+ point favorite and likely lose. You think that's going to stop the rioting in leftist cities? I think things will get worse unless we send in the military.
 

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Just a thought. At no time in history has Communism been the wish of the majority of the people. Yet we've seen it in multiple countries over multiple decades. Why? Because all it takes is a few thousand motivated individuals in the right places to force it through. I feel like my paranoid dad but this is how communism is done. They are literally publicly calling for communism and the media either ignores it or cheers it on.

. You've got an ultra silent majority this year. Biden will go into this election a 10+ point favorite and likely lose. You think that's going to stop the rioting in leftist cities? I think things will get worse unless we send in the military.
It’s like a child crying for candy...the more candy you give the more they cry.
 

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Why would any city want this for the people that call it home or runs a business to support their families?
Simple answer, really. The Council and Mayor are democrats; they hate Trump; they think civil unrest will help defeat Trump; therefore, they will encourage civil unrest. The rest of civilization be damned !
 
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Could you copy and paste the article. I'm not paying to read it.
Yes sir and War Eagle. Its a great read. Enjoy.

Opinion/Commentary. WALL STREET JOURNAL
I’m Leaving Seattle for Texas So My Employees Can Be Free
June 26, 2020 6:38 pm ET

I’m moving my business headquarters off the West Coast. We tried San Francisco. We tried the Seattle area. Both were wonderful in their own ways, especially in natural beauty and personal friendships. But both have become hostile to the principles and policies that enable people to live abundantly in the broadest sense.

That’s why my company is in the final stages of purchasing office space in Austin, Texas. By the end of the year, I hope to move dozens of employees to the Lone Star State and to be ready to hire hundreds more. While uprooting a big part of a billion-dollar company isn’t easy, the decision to move to Texas wasn’t hard. Our staff and their families will be able to flourish to a much greater extent.

Leaving the West Coast might seem strange for a company focused on tech ventures and related investments. It’s true that the company has benefited greatly from the larger pool of forward thinkers and industry disrupters in the tech hot spots of San Francisco and Seattle. But the best places to be in tech have now become some of the worst places to raise a family, practice a faith, or even think freely. This hurts my team and the business.


These areas are culturally diverse but increasingly monolithic in terms of ideology. In the past few weeks, radical protesters took over a portion of Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. The mood in the area was that this experiment in anarchy was acceptable and even praiseworthy. Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan even issued a statement commending the “First Amendment activities” of the occupiers.


The response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been similarly disheartening. The West Coast’s progressive policy makers imposed some of the nation’s most regressive lockdown measures. While their one-size-fits-all approach may have worked for those with flexible jobs and few other commitments, they utterly neglected the millions of employees who couldn’t work from home, the families that needed to get out of the house, and the religious believers who wanted nothing more than to worship. Those concerns were treated as secondary.

Even in normal times, San Francisco and Seattle go to great lengths to make life hard for families. Both cities, with governments dominated by cryptosocialists, are notorious for enacting policies that raise the price of housing, drive out jobs and punish innovative companies in ways that hurt workers. With the Seattle area as a whole becoming more radical on economics by the year, it seems foolish to hope that the situation will improve for my company’s workers and their families.

Perhaps my biggest concern is that the region’s political orthodoxy has left little room for religious belief. In both San Francisco and Seattle, many of our Christian and Muslim friends and employees have expressed concern that their deeply held views are being driven from the public square. They worry that stating their views publicly will lead to being shunned or attacked. It has been disheartening to learn how closed the most “open” minds can be.

I’ve talked with many entrepreneurs in California, Washington and Oregon who have encountered similar issues. Most aren’t sure how to respond. Generally, the amount of tech talent and funding on the coast leads them to conclude that they have no choice but to stay put and stay silent.

I reject that answer. The biggest talent pool in the world doesn’t matter if the ocean that surrounds it is intellectually shallow. If a business is based in a place that expects social and political conformity, then innovation will falter eventually, because it depends on pushing the boundaries. And if our people find it hard to flourish in every aspect of their lives, then the company will struggle in the long run. I think that as the West Coast becomes more insular and exclusive, other parts of the country will become the biggest drivers of tech innovation.

That’s why we’re leaving the West Coast and heading to Texas. When it comes to talent, we’re confident we can attract the best without finding the same homogeneity of views. When it comes to housing, families making $100,000 to $200,000 a year can afford a good-size place. The policy environment in Texas encourages risk-taking and rewards workers. When it comes to schools, there are plenty of great options that don’t confuse indoctrination with education. And on matters of faith and morals, religious belief doesn’t make you a social outcast. In Texas, the quintessential American ideals of family, faith and freedom still reign supreme.

Will it be tough to make this move? You bet. But heading to Texas is the right thing to do for my team and their families, and their outpouring of support has been telling. They want to be in a place where they can live to the fullest extent. And I’m convinced that the sooner they are, the stronger the company will be.
 
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Yes sir and War Eagle. Its a great read. Enjoy.

Opinion/Commentary. WALL STREET JOURNAL
I’m Leaving Seattle for Texas So My Employees Can Be Free
June 26, 2020 6:38 pm ET

I’m moving my business headquarters off the West Coast. We tried San Francisco. We tried the Seattle area. Both were wonderful in their own ways, especially in natural beauty and personal friendships. But both have become hostile to the principles and policies that enable people to live abundantly in the broadest sense.

That’s why my company is in the final stages of purchasing office space in Austin, Texas. By the end of the year, I hope to move dozens of employees to the Lone Star State and to be ready to hire hundreds more. While uprooting a big part of a billion-dollar company isn’t easy, the decision to move to Texas wasn’t hard. Our staff and their families will be able to flourish to a much greater extent.

Leaving the West Coast might seem strange for a company focused on tech ventures and related investments. It’s true that the company has benefited greatly from the larger pool of forward thinkers and industry disrupters in the tech hot spots of San Francisco and Seattle. But the best places to be in tech have now become some of the worst places to raise a family, practice a faith, or even think freely. This hurts my team and the business.


These areas are culturally diverse but increasingly monolithic in terms of ideology. In the past few weeks, radical protesters took over a portion of Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. The mood in the area was that this experiment in anarchy was acceptable and even praiseworthy. Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan even issued a statement commending the “First Amendment activities” of the occupiers.


The response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been similarly disheartening. The West Coast’s progressive policy makers imposed some of the nation’s most regressive lockdown measures. While their one-size-fits-all approach may have worked for those with flexible jobs and few other commitments, they utterly neglected the millions of employees who couldn’t work from home, the families that needed to get out of the house, and the religious believers who wanted nothing more than to worship. Those concerns were treated as secondary.

Even in normal times, San Francisco and Seattle go to great lengths to make life hard for families. Both cities, with governments dominated by cryptosocialists, are notorious for enacting policies that raise the price of housing, drive out jobs and punish innovative companies in ways that hurt workers. With the Seattle area as a whole becoming more radical on economics by the year, it seems foolish to hope that the situation will improve for my company’s workers and their families.

Perhaps my biggest concern is that the region’s political orthodoxy has left little room for religious belief. In both San Francisco and Seattle, many of our Christian and Muslim friends and employees have expressed concern that their deeply held views are being driven from the public square. They worry that stating their views publicly will lead to being shunned or attacked. It has been disheartening to learn how closed the most “open” minds can be.

I’ve talked with many entrepreneurs in California, Washington and Oregon who have encountered similar issues. Most aren’t sure how to respond. Generally, the amount of tech talent and funding on the coast leads them to conclude that they have no choice but to stay put and stay silent.

I reject that answer. The biggest talent pool in the world doesn’t matter if the ocean that surrounds it is intellectually shallow. If a business is based in a place that expects social and political conformity, then innovation will falter eventually, because it depends on pushing the boundaries. And if our people find it hard to flourish in every aspect of their lives, then the company will struggle in the long run. I think that as the West Coast becomes more insular and exclusive, other parts of the country will become the biggest drivers of tech innovation.

That’s why we’re leaving the West Coast and heading to Texas. When it comes to talent, we’re confident we can attract the best without finding the same homogeneity of views. When it comes to housing, families making $100,000 to $200,000 a year can afford a good-size place. The policy environment in Texas encourages risk-taking and rewards workers. When it comes to schools, there are plenty of great options that don’t confuse indoctrination with education. And on matters of faith and morals, religious belief doesn’t make you a social outcast. In Texas, the quintessential American ideals of family, faith and freedom still reign supreme.

Will it be tough to make this move? You bet. But heading to Texas is the right thing to do for my team and their families, and their outpouring of support has been telling. They want to be in a place where they can live to the fullest extent. And I’m convinced that the sooner they are, the stronger the company will be.
Thanks brother.
 

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Yes sir and War Eagle. Its a great read. Enjoy.

Opinion/Commentary. WALL STREET JOURNAL
I’m Leaving Seattle for Texas So My Employees Can Be Free
June 26, 2020 6:38 pm ET

I’m moving my business headquarters off the West Coast. We tried San Francisco. We tried the Seattle area. Both were wonderful in their own ways, especially in natural beauty and personal friendships. But both have become hostile to the principles and policies that enable people to live abundantly in the broadest sense.

That’s why my company is in the final stages of purchasing office space in Austin, Texas. By the end of the year, I hope to move dozens of employees to the Lone Star State and to be ready to hire hundreds more. While uprooting a big part of a billion-dollar company isn’t easy, the decision to move to Texas wasn’t hard. Our staff and their families will be able to flourish to a much greater extent.

Leaving the West Coast might seem strange for a company focused on tech ventures and related investments. It’s true that the company has benefited greatly from the larger pool of forward thinkers and industry disrupters in the tech hot spots of San Francisco and Seattle. But the best places to be in tech have now become some of the worst places to raise a family, practice a faith, or even think freely. This hurts my team and the business.


These areas are culturally diverse but increasingly monolithic in terms of ideology. In the past few weeks, radical protesters took over a portion of Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. The mood in the area was that this experiment in anarchy was acceptable and even praiseworthy. Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan even issued a statement commending the “First Amendment activities” of the occupiers.


The response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been similarly disheartening. The West Coast’s progressive policy makers imposed some of the nation’s most regressive lockdown measures. While their one-size-fits-all approach may have worked for those with flexible jobs and few other commitments, they utterly neglected the millions of employees who couldn’t work from home, the families that needed to get out of the house, and the religious believers who wanted nothing more than to worship. Those concerns were treated as secondary.

Even in normal times, San Francisco and Seattle go to great lengths to make life hard for families. Both cities, with governments dominated by cryptosocialists, are notorious for enacting policies that raise the price of housing, drive out jobs and punish innovative companies in ways that hurt workers. With the Seattle area as a whole becoming more radical on economics by the year, it seems foolish to hope that the situation will improve for my company’s workers and their families.

Perhaps my biggest concern is that the region’s political orthodoxy has left little room for religious belief. In both San Francisco and Seattle, many of our Christian and Muslim friends and employees have expressed concern that their deeply held views are being driven from the public square. They worry that stating their views publicly will lead to being shunned or attacked. It has been disheartening to learn how closed the most “open” minds can be.

I’ve talked with many entrepreneurs in California, Washington and Oregon who have encountered similar issues. Most aren’t sure how to respond. Generally, the amount of tech talent and funding on the coast leads them to conclude that they have no choice but to stay put and stay silent.

I reject that answer. The biggest talent pool in the world doesn’t matter if the ocean that surrounds it is intellectually shallow. If a business is based in a place that expects social and political conformity, then innovation will falter eventually, because it depends on pushing the boundaries. And if our people find it hard to flourish in every aspect of their lives, then the company will struggle in the long run. I think that as the West Coast becomes more insular and exclusive, other parts of the country will become the biggest drivers of tech innovation.

That’s why we’re leaving the West Coast and heading to Texas. When it comes to talent, we’re confident we can attract the best without finding the same homogeneity of views. When it comes to housing, families making $100,000 to $200,000 a year can afford a good-size place. The policy environment in Texas encourages risk-taking and rewards workers. When it comes to schools, there are plenty of great options that don’t confuse indoctrination with education. And on matters of faith and morals, religious belief doesn’t make you a social outcast. In Texas, the quintessential American ideals of family, faith and freedom still reign supreme.

Will it be tough to make this move? You bet. But heading to Texas is the right thing to do for my team and their families, and their outpouring of support has been telling. They want to be in a place where they can live to the fullest extent. And I’m convinced that the sooner they are, the stronger the company will be.

Thanks for sharing that, you are correct it is an outstanding read.
 
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I also spent a week in Seattle last Summer. I concur with this. Ate dinner up at Newcastle Golf Course. If you think The Club in Bham has a great view, you need to hit up Newcastle sometime.
Do they have Wednesdays reserved for non-members like the clubs in Birmingham? And how does their AYCE wing deal compare?
 

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Completely terrible for those who are trying to work and provide for their families like normal citizens. For those who are enacting in the demolishment of others properties and use violence to provoke a message, I hope they drop like flies.
People like you describe have one option...move. Not that it’ll be easy to sell their property right now. Seattle is one of the few openly socialist cities in America. If you don’t subscribe to the ideology, you need to leave. It won’t change...even in an election. I still can’t believe Amazon hasn’t announced a move yet. Their new Amazon tax in Seattle is punitive af...