While I agree 102%, the posters are equally.Some of these basketball takes are embarassing.
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While I agree 102%, the posters are equally.Some of these basketball takes are embarassing.
While there's some truth to this, we also missed on some major impact transfers that we recruited really hard to backup Cooper.I think my overall point is that we weren't just gonna hand out a scholarship to anyone this year to have a true backup PG. I think we know, and Pearl does too, it's all about next year.
Agree with what you are saying program-wise but not so much about last night. We kept lobbing the ball sideways out of the double team with 3 guys standing and watching and ultimately ending up with SC going 1 on 3 or 4 trying to create off the dribble. Flash someone to the FT line and attack downhill with the number advantage. Have the bigs screen down for a shooter to pop up. Something. You can’t tell me AF who is supposedly a R1 pro prospect can’t do that.
Reflecting on last nights basketball game. On the road, up 17 points playing lock down defense. & we blew it. It is obvious we only have one PG on the roster and that is unacceptable. Much like our tackle position in football which gets roasted all the time. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays forever, but we do hold him and the basketball team to a different standard than football. Had that been a football game last night whoever the coach was you all would be going for his head right now.
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That’s fair. Personally I’d rather sign a mid-major caliber PG over another forward of center, but apples and oranges.
Agree about AF. Great body and work ethic and willing defender but needs a good bit of refinement on offensive skills. Needs to learn to dribble with his head up and use his off hand better. But I still think he is effective and a dribble drive option from 14 feet and in. We have been running the action we ran for Okoro, Samir and sometimes Chuma for him involving a curl off a screen at the elbow trying to get him going downhill with an angle to his left and it has worked pretty well at times when he doesn’t totally drop his head and drive into traffic or draw a charge. I kept waiting for us to flash him up to the FT line last night once to double got to SC so he could’ve attacked downhill with a big available on the block and a shooter in the ball side corner but I never materialized. We kept playing slow and throwing the ball sideways.I agree. I think we are going to definitely see adjustments made to what Arkansas did to Coop last night.
I think the Flanigan hype is a little overblown at this point even though I love his potential and how much better he's gotten since last year. Taking the ball from 30-feet and making a play just isn't his game. He make a plays one trip, and then the next commits a turnover. I think we are just missing that secondary guard on the floor who can attack and make an advantage play when Coop is doubled. That is going to be Powell and Alexander next year. The rest of the guys (Thor, Williams, Cambridge, etc.) need to be set up to make a play at this stage.
Agree about AF. Great body and work ethic and willing defender but needs a good bit of refinement on offensive skills. Needs to learn to dribble with his head up and use his off hand better. But I still think he is effective and a dribble drive option from 14 feet and in. We have been running the action we ran for Okoro, Samir and sometimes Chuma for him involving a curl off a screen at the elbow trying to get him going downhill with an angle to his left and it has worked pretty well at times when he doesn’t totally drop his head and drive into traffic or draw a charge. I kept waiting for us to flash him up to the FT line last night once to double got to SC so he could’ve attacked downhill with a big available on the block and a shooter in the ball side corner but I never materialized. We kept playing slow and throwing the ball sideways.
Which ones?Some of these basketball takes are embarassing.
Dude... we have 2 options to play the pg position. That is including a guy that is a "combo guard". Flanigan is not a guy that we should have to rely on to run the point. So having 2 total guys on a roster that are capable of running the show is not normal. Tell yourself that all that you want, but point out another SEC program with the same issue?It's incredibility difficult to manage a basketball roster with no holes for 3-4 straight years in the 1-and-done era.
Now add the NCAA/FBI thing that basically left us without a recruiting class for a year....and it's near impossible. It's why we had to do a mini rebuild, are extremely young, and have some holes.
Everyone is getting so hung up on a "true back up PG." Basketball isn't like that anymore. A lot of teams have 1 true PG, and then spell him with guards who can handle and make plays. If you have a 5-star PG that's gonna play 30-35 minutes a game....a true PG behind him playing 5-10 minutes a game is gonna transfer (Davion) or not be any good. McCormick was the exception. Those guys don't grow on trees.
Powell is that guard for us that can give us quality "PG" minutes behind Cooper, even if he's a "SG"....but everyone is getting too hung up on the traditional 5 basketball positions that aren't as relevant anymore. He's hurt.
We also don't have scholarships to just hand out to anyone. To add another PG next year, someone has to leave. We could have gone after a few second-tier transfer PGs after we missed on some bigger names, but we didn't. I think Pearl wanted to see what he had this year in a rebuild, and then address this offseason. I think that's acceptable.
To compare it to years of poor OT recruiting, when literally any 4-star player could come in and start at LT immediately is not a fair comparison.
Reflecting on last nights basketball game. On the road, up 17 points playing lock down defense. & we blew it. It is obvious we only have one PG on the roster and that is unacceptable. Much like our tackle position in football which gets roasted all the time. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays forever, but we do hold him and the basketball team to a different standard than football. Had that been a football game last night whoever the coach was you all would be going for his head right now.
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We sign a PG cause we would have a spot open. Its a rebuilding and development year. Relax.Which ones?
Who runs point next year if Coop leaves?
Dude... we have 2 options to play the pg position. That is including a guy that is a "combo guard". Flanigan is not a guy that we should have to rely on to run the point. So having 2 total guys on a roster that are capable of running the show is not normal. Tell yourself that all that you want, but point out another SEC program with the same issue?
So what is the plan if Sharife leaves? Who is running the show? Powell? Who else?
Davion left, Turbo wasn't good enough, Justin is concussed and Sharife is a Freshman All-American.Which ones?
Who runs point next year if Coop leaves?
Dude... we have 2 options to play the pg position. That is including a guy that is a "combo guard". Flanigan is not a guy that we should have to rely on to run the point. So having 2 total guys on a roster that are capable of running the show is not normal. Tell yourself that all that you want, but point out another SEC program with the same issue?
So what is the plan if Sharife leaves? Who is running the show? Powell? Who else?
Reflecting on last nights basketball game. On the road, up 17 points playing lock down defense. & we blew it. It is obvious we only have one PG on the roster and that is unacceptable. Much like our tackle position in football which gets roasted all the time. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays forever, but we do hold him and the basketball team to a different standard than football. Had that been a football game last night whoever the coach was you all would be going for his head right now.
WDE
not to mention our backup PG(would be playing lots) that should still be on the roster transferred and is starting for the 2nd best team in the country. Oh yea and the other guard we thought could play a little was abysmalIt's almost like he has won 25+ games 3 seasons in a row, 2 SEC titles, gotten us to the final 4 with the worst program in the P5....and then the roster completely turned over and he has earned a rebuild year with the youngest team in the country.
If Davion is here, Cooper isn’t. It’s that simple. He’s be a senior. Or he’d have left early and we’d have Cooper, we wouldn’t have them both. Turbo and Powell are both Combo Guards who can moonlight at Point. Turbo couldn’t do it and I think Powell can (in small segments). It was clear last December that Turbo couldn’t play point and thus we played Samir who wasn’t a point and struggled mightily early on. It’s more than fair to point out the need for another guard, particularly a point guard. I think you could argue roster wise it’s really the only weak spot for the last 4 years.Davion left, Turbo wasn't good enough, Justin is concussed and Sharife is a Freshman All-American.
Seems like Bruce Pearl is doing a fine job recruiting.
You really think Cooper would have come here with Davion coming back for his Senior year? Not happening.not to mention our backup PG(would be playing lots) that should still be on the roster transferred and is starting for the 2nd best team in the country. Oh yea and the other guard we thought could play a little was abysmal
So if this is the case... and Sharife leaves, we are relying on one new guy at the PG position. Either a freshman or a transfer. And then would have the same options as a backup again.We sign a PG cause we would have a spot open. Its a rebuilding and development year. Relax.
I thought Cooper was coming here regardless due to his connections with Strech and Okoro( I know I'm missing one other former HS teammate too, name escapes me)?You really think Cooper would have come here with Davion coming back for his Senior year? Not happening.
That is 2 potential guys on the roster that can play point. Both of which are true freshman, and one of which is likely to leave after this year... leaving us in the same boat next year with the option of either signing a freshman to play the point or getting a transfer.Davion left, Turbo wasn't good enough, Justin is concussed and Sharife is a Freshman All-American.
Seems like Bruce Pearl is doing a fine job recruiting.
I mean I’d love that, but I can’t see him coming in to play with a seasoned stater? Maybe Davion would have been ok with sliding over, but I think the overall point remains.I thought Cooper was coming here regardless due to his connections with Strech and Okoro( I know I'm missing one other former HS teammate too, name escapes me)?
Kentucky won 31 games in 2009-10, lost in the regional final.That is 2 potential guys on the roster that can play point. Both of which are true freshman, and one of which is likely to leave after this year... leaving us in the same boat next year with the option of either signing a freshman to play the point or getting a transfer.
No one is bashing Bruce's recruiting. He is one of the absolute best in the business. Period. Our roster is absolutely loaded with talent. Just a bit unbalanced at the moment.
Davion transferred years ago. We've known for a while that Turbo wasn't going to pan out. That leaves the two true freshman. It would be beneficial for the team to have more than just those two options. It is weird that this is a contentious thing to point out. They literally talk about it in every broadcast. And we saw what we looked like without a PG prior to Sharife getting cleared.
That’s 2 current NBA point guards... what’s your point? Now Bledsoe took a bit longer to develop, but he had true PG skills. They would have been fine. Not sure I see the comp to Powell or Turbo and what will happen to us if Cooper gets hurt.Kentucky won 31 games in 2009-10, lost in the regional final.
Their point guard was John Wall.
Their backup point guard? A 6-1 shooting guard named Eric Bledsoe.
What was the plan had Wall not qualified or gotten hurt? There wasn't a plan.
This is life.
Bledsoe is a combo guard, similar to Justin Powell in role while at Kentucky.That’s 2 current NBA point guards... what’s your point? Now Bledsoe took a bit longer to develop, but he had true PG skills. They would have been fine. Not sure I see the comp to Powell or Turbo and what will happen to us if Cooper gets hurt.
That’s 2 current NBA point guards... what’s your point? Now Bledsoe took a bit longer to develop, but he had true PG skills. They would have been fine. Not sure I see the comp to Powell or Turbo and what will happen to us if Cooper gets hurt.
Lots of “new” basketball people on the bunkLOL at anyone who thinks Eric Bledsoe is a true PG. Dude is a damn bulldog that happens to be athletic.
TrueReflecting on last nights basketball game. On the road, up 17 points playing lock down defense. & we blew it. It is obvious we only have one PG on the roster and that is unacceptable. Much like our tackle position in football which gets roasted all the time. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays forever, but we do hold him and the basketball team to a different standard than football. Had that been a football game last night whoever the coach was you all would be going for his head right now.
WDE
FRANKLIN may end up beeeing PERTY DAYUM GOOOD!!!!I would agree. I was actually on the don't sign Cardwell train, and save scholarship for another guard...which looks dumb now since Cardwell is a pretty good piece, especially for a true frosh. If Franklin leaves, I would bet 100% we sign best PG we can get next year.
If Franklin doesn't leave Powell and Alexander can both spell Cooper at PG, while the other plays the other guard spot (and Jamal playing some too).....we'd be more than fine doing that just couldn't afford a bad injury.
FRANKLIN may end up beeeing PERTY DAYUM GOOOD!!!!
Heeeeez got sum goood SKEEEEEEEELZ!!
Umm, No one would be down CGM throats like they were if he didn't give the same mundane answers ever press conference and simply say. My play calling was bad. My game-plan for them was bad. I screwed up that play call. We should have used "insert name here" more.Reflecting on last nights basketball game. On the road, up 17 points playing lock down defense. & we blew it. It is obvious we only have one PG on the roster and that is unacceptable. Much like our tackle position in football which gets roasted all the time. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays forever, but we do hold him and the basketball team to a different standard than football. Had that been a football game last night whoever the coach was you all would be going for his head right now.
WDE
Heeeez got sum upside. HE GOES TO THE RACK!!His two 3s kept us in the game last night when Arky was scoring every trip. He's done some impactful things when in the game. With Smith coming in next year and everyone else continuing to develop (Thor, Cardwell, Jaylin, etc) not sure I see much opportunity for him to get minutes.
That UK team was one of the most talented teams I can ever recall. Cousins, Wall, Bledsoe and Patterson have all been long-time NBA starters and all-stars in a couple of their cases.Bledsoe is a combo guard, similar to Justin Powell in role while at Kentucky.
If you can't tell the difference a real PG makes (even if he is a superstar like Sharife) then I can't help you. Our offense was not anywhere near the top tier of the SEC standards without a real PG.We act like Powell wasn't playing well as full-time PG before injury for a true frosh. He is more than capable of giving you 10 really good minutes a game at PG. Alexander has the skill set to do this as well next year.
That UK team was one of the most talented teams I can ever recall. Cousins, Wall, Bledsoe and Patterson have all been long-time NBA starters and all-stars in a couple of their cases.
- he was more of a 2 than a PG, but he was listed as as PG coming out of high school.
They had 2 NBA starters in their backcourt. Both of which were more than capable of being a PG in the SEC. So they had options. They also had Liggins (who handled backup PG duties in that season and the next) and Darius Miller at the 2 for what seemed like a decade iirc.
If you can't tell the difference a real PG makes (even if he is a superstar like Sharife) then I can't help you. Our offense was not anywhere near the top tier of the SEC standards without a real PG.
So I will ask one more time... since for some reason you always ignore this part: What happens if Sharife doesn't come back for next year??? Justin Powell would be forced into an on-ball roll that is not ideal for him or our team. Either that, or we will be relying on one newcomer to be the primary facilitator/ball-handler. Right?Difference in asking Powell to be full-time PG, and asking him to give you 10 minutes at PG a game. Like I said, if we can sign a true backup PG I'm all for it, but how many guys that would be serviceable willing to come do that? Good chance Powell still beating them out to run Point when Sharife goes to the bench. They might not even play at all. Just would be an emergency insurance policy.
I will answer for him. YesSo I will ask one more time... since for some reason you always ignore this part: What happens if Sharife doesn't come back for next year??? Justin Powell would be forced into an on-ball roll that is not ideal for him or our team. Either that, or we will be relying on one newcomer to be the primary facilitator/ball-handler. Right?
So I will ask one more time... since for some reason you always ignore this part: What happens if Sharife doesn't come back for next year??? Justin Powell would be forced into an on-ball roll that is not ideal for him or our team. Either that, or we will be relying on one newcomer to be the primary facilitator/ball-handler. Right?